RA rodeo stalling
Submitted: Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 14:22
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Cruznoz, If you are still active, I have an RA Common rail 07 and it stalls just like you explained your did. Local GM dealer not interested, have just fitted a scangauge to see if anything comes up. Is there anyone out there who may have had a similar problem and found a solution?
Reply By: Ruffy-Dan - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 16:28
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 16:28
Bit more info on the stalling would be good.
Dan
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Follow Up By: Tonyfish#58 - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 16:49
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 16:49
Link to CRUNZNOZ Thread
Up to date the few issues I have had with the engine light and idling issues have been fixed by doing the motor turn off thingy and let the computer reset & sort it out :-)
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Reply By: Member - John D, Wandong (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 16:39
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 16:39
Hi Group 4,
I have a similar problem with my 2005 RA TD, now and then when I turn the key to start the motor I notice the "
Check engine" light is flashing and the motor won't fire up at all, what I do is to turn the key to the off position and then remove the ignition key completely, then reinsert the key and turn to the on position, in most cases the "
Check Engine" light has gone out and the motor starts, these instructions were given to me by a Holden dealer...seems to work.
Other times the motor will start when the engine light goes off, only to stall a second later, after trying again the motor would fire up and run normal, when I got
home I checked the engine oil level and found it to be low, so topped up oil and the problem went away. So I think one of the answers in the Cruznoz thread about oil pressure sensors plus a dirty oil filter may be spot on!
Cheers,
John
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Reply By: Group4 - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 18:26
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 18:26
Thanks Guy's, but alas have tried all of the obvious checks, car has been serviced a couple of times, filters etc no luck, even used different fuel, normally use Caltex, used BP for a month, no change. I am starting to think maybe one the the sensors is a bit dicky, going back to the local Mech tomorrow to see if he can stumble on something. I just wish the bloody thing would stop altogether so we could find the problem.
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Follow Up By: Ruffy-Dan - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 20:18
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 20:18
Does the engine
check light come on?
If so;
Has the mechanic retrieved fault codes from the ECU?
if so;
Do you know what they are?
Dan
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Follow Up By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 22:26
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 22:26
Hey
check your EGR Valve, had a guy into work who said that his RA rodeo was acting up, checked hiis egr valve and it was stuffed. you can get the ones off a holden v6 petrol which will bolt on!!!!
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Reply By: gbc - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 20:08
Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 20:08
There's a known fuel solenoid issue with that model. Cheap fix - difficult to diagnose.
I'll try to find more info.
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Follow Up By: Group4 - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:41
Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:41
Thanks gbc, had the truck to the Mech today he was unable to track the fault. Even though it stalled on him a couple of times, no fault codes came up. I will go back to him tomorrow to see if he can track down this fuel solenoid issue. Thanks heaps it's the best lead so far. I will keep you posted.
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Reply By: Cruznoz - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:22
Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:22
Hi all,
I had a pc crash shortly after posting my thread and never got a chance to respond. I took "Moguls" advice and changed the ignition key. So far the problem hasn't reappeared. That was 5 weeks ago so I am quitley condifent that the key might be the problem
Steve
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Reply By: Sads - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 19:07
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 19:07
My 2008 Colorado occasionally stalls also. Usually when the engine is warm (after a light run to the shops for example, no towing/stress). Either fails to start, or will die within 15 seconds of starting engine.
I take the keys out and leave it for a couple of minutes and then it starts no problems.
The main problem is it is random (and rare) when it occurs - the chances of it happening for the dealer are very slim. No engine error light that i have noticed.
So yes to similar problem, but no to solution.
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:32
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:32
Same problem with my 2009 Colorado. Only difference it doesn't care about temp, does it hot or cold.
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Thursday, Jan 13, 2011 at 00:27
Thursday, Jan 13, 2011 at 00:27
Went back to the dealer today and demanded they change the fuel pressure regulator under warranty and when they realised I knew what I was talking about, they actually admitted to having to change a few and that they have had a few problems with them.
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Reply By: Group4 - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:04
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:04
Start to sound like a not so isolated problem. Tried the changing key trick with no luck, I am going to get the fuel shut off solenoid replace, so fingers crossed.
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Reply By: Huffy - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 23:08
Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 23:08
My RA07 was doing the same thing. Changed out the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel pump and hasn't done it since. Cost around $140 from memory and a bit of a pain to do yourself. I complained to numerous Holden sevice centres around the
Gold Coast and when I heard through online forums and the mechanic that I use now that the problem was the regulator I went to the local dealer who had serviced the car on numerous occaisions and they had the part on the shelf. Wonders never cease. It also threw a low pressure code on the Scangauge the last time it happened but that was the first time it had given a code after stalling. It also seemed to improve the performance after the fitment but that is just a
seat of the pants measurement as I never had an issue with the performance before the replacement. You will find on the paperwork in the box the pump numbers that were affected by the dodgy original part so
check this to be sure it will fit as they use a couple of different pumps throughout the model.
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Follow Up By: Group4 - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 17:25
Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 17:25
Heading back to the mechanic tomorrow, I will get him to
check the regulator before he replaces the shut off solenoid or are these two items one in the same? Anyway thanks for your input, I can now see a glimmer of light in the distance, lets hope it turns out to be a ray of sunshine tomorrow.
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Reply By: Group4 - Sunday, Jan 16, 2011 at 17:43
Sunday, Jan 16, 2011 at 17:43
Hi trend setters,
well more info on the old stalling caper. Looks like we may have found the problem, I hope I don't jinx myself here, but had the Fuel Cut off solenoid replaced......Not only that, but Holden now sell an updated conversion surprise, surprise, surprise. The new solenoid is a lot bigger than the original. As was mentioned in an earlier thread, maybe Holden knew about the problem and kept quiet, if not why would they make a conversion? So far no stalling and seems to have a tad more performance, any way fingers crossed. Thanks guys for all your input, happy driving.
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Reply By: Sads - Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:41
Tuesday, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:41
Dealer fixed my Colorado stalling (and lumpy idle) issues yesterday. For future interest: they replaced what they called a "suction control valve" - possibly the same part under a different name. They mentioned a few had come back similar, and that the new part is modified/improved from the original (different part number)
Group 4, I hope yours is now going
well. Sounds like everyone is sorted. Thanks for all the compiled information.
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