HID light conversion for Sahara landcruiser

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 17:42
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Hello World,

I have just installed HID bulbs in my 2003 Saraha LC, I am very happy with the result,you can see very clearly and they are easy on the eyes the only problem is that they are a bit too bright,i have been trying to adjust the lights but with out success.
I've done the whole sighting board at 25ft.thing but do not seem to get any adjustment.
There are 2 round raised washer thingos with seratted teeth and 7mm nut in the middle behind each light,i have turned these approx 4-5 full rotations in both directions but doesn't appear to make any difference on the sighting board can anyone shed any light(no pun intended) on the subject please
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 19:32

Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 19:32
Oh well apart from being illegal in vehicles not fitted at the factory here how to adjust your headlights. They are illegal in vehicles without washers and height adjustment from inside cabin or auto height one or the other.

What has happened I would think is that someone like you has turned them too far and they have jammed.

Solution after going to Toyota and told they were stuffed and new ones were $355 each.

Take them out of the car Take the bulbs out Look in behind the glass and you can see the adjusting bolts

The top one is for left and right adjustment

The bottom one is up and down.

Gently turn them one way or the other and you will see them gradually move out from the stops Get them in the middle and put them back in.

Part of the focus trouble I think is the fact that the HID's have a different distance from the reflectors than standard bulbs.

I have done two Cruisers with this trouble after the owners were told they were stuffed

When you wind them too far the nylon outers on the bolts spread and wont move any more Easing tem back gently will fix it.

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:39

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:39
Should have said look behind reflectors to see adjustment bolts



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Follow Up By: Box Hill Bill- Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 17:59

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 17:59
Hi Graham

I read on another blog that you were retiring after the next trip in about 3 months.

Will miss your informative input. Are you returning home to NZ or staying on the big island?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:20

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:20
No I retired before the last 18 month trip and just havent done Qld so if it

ever dries up we intend doing that and then selling the rig.

I wont be going back to NZ as my dicky joints dont like the cold any more

Next move will be into a 6' x 2' house as in Coober Pedy LOL.

sorry but I wont be going away LOL


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Reply By: Ray - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:39

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:39
Yes those lamps are a PITA to on coming drivers so stick to the original globes. I hope you get nicked before you go too far.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:35

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:35
Ditto
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:40

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:40
Me too. I hope you get nicked.
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Follow Up By: Member - Lou S (WA) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:53

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:53
Well my reply is I hope you got "get nicked" as well !!!
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:17

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:17
I worry about the trend towards these super bright lights. I got dazzled last night by an oncoming car who I flashed assuming he had his lights on high beam. I soon realised when he put up to high beam and I had to pull to the side of the road until he passed before I could see.

True, lights in the older vehicles like my 1995 troopy were not great but those in my 2004 LC100 are more than adequate for normal driving. If I drove regularly at night in rural areas I would add driving lights but we always try to camp before dark so it is a non-issue.

I am sure I will cop flak but HID aftermarket bulbs are not a step forward in my mind.

cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:21

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:21
Lou,
Sorry I diverted your thread.

You have already been given what I am sure is the answer to you adjusment problems. I found my lights were hard to adjust too and after accessing the adjusters I gave all the moving bits a squirt of white lithium grease. It sticks well and does not attract dust build up like normal lubricants. makes everything work much better even a tear or 2 since the last adjustment.

cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:22

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:22
year !!
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:57

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:57
If you adjust them as I said you dont need any lubricant as it is preferable that

the parts sort of stick together a bit and dont go out of adjustment.

They have nylon parts which dont really need it

I did mine over two years ago and havent had to readjust them since despite travelling right around the country.

You can also adjust the bolts by putting a phillips head screwdriver behind the nuts where the serrations are and turn it from there. Much easier on the knuckles.

Always wondered why they were there and the mechanic at Toyota showed me.. Marvelous.

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Reply By: Voxson - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:40

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:40
In SA they are an instant red flag for the cops....
"hey look at me, i dont care about oncoming traffic"....
Beats me why people pay $300 to attract cops....
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:28

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:28
G'day Lou, I dont hope you get "Nicked", as some have put it. Perhaps you, like
me werent aware of the legalities of these things. I had considered putting them in the Jack ,as its lights are woeful, but dont drive at night & have spotties if
necessary....oldbaz.
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Reply By: Member - Lou S (WA) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:03

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:03
Thank you all for your comments including the personal opinions.!!!
I do a lot of night driving and the choice to install HID globes is a safety issue,the wildlife in my area can be very challenging,horses,cows and large roos,i am a responsible driver and thus the reason for my question when adjusted properly I do not think they will be an issue.Thanks again for your feed back
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:12

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:12
Would be much more responsible and legal to buy a pair of Lightforce HID driving lights.

Doing something that is definitely illegal shows a lack of responsibility in my eyes.

The reason they have been banned is because if one night you go out with the back of your car loaded up they will be out of the normal zone and could therefore blind someone.
Should they then run into you or someone else you could be held responsible and perhaps negate your insurance.


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Reply By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:26

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:26
The problem with HID's is the light source is in a different position to the filaments in a conventional bulb. This means the geometry of the lens and reflector are not suitable and the lights cannot be aimed properly (or legally).

I hope everyone with HID upgrades gets nicked.

They are dangerous to oncoming traffic.
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Reply By: Capt. Wrongway - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:47

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 15:47
Many years ago at AppleTree Bay boat ramp ( NSW ) I was watching a elderly Greak couple launching their large boat. It was about 27-28 footer on a tri-axle trailer. The wife was in the boat and the husband walked along side to hand her things. Next minute the whole affair roles backwards into the drink.
Happy ending ... the boat never got away, when the F250 sank it stopped the boat and trailer floating away!
Things can always be worse!
Capt.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:02

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:02
And this has what do do with HID lights??????????????????????????????

perhaps wrong thread LOL


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Follow Up By: Member - John Baas (WA) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 17:17

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 17:17
Hi Capt.

I think you meant to respond to ThreadID: 83551??

Cheers.
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Reply By: StormyKnight - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:16

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:16
..but a good story anyway....maybe a diversion from the original topic?
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Follow Up By: Member - Lou S (WA) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:51

Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:51
yes a good story,amazing what the imagination conjures up
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