ANOTHER CAMPING SPOT CLOSED
Submitted: Sunday, Jan 09, 2011 at 22:09
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Member - Murray R (VIC)
After camping at
Aire Crossing in the
Otways, I also called in at Aire Valley Reserve where I used to
camp all the time years ago. I last camped there 4/5 years ago and the place had gone to the pitts, rubbish and
toilet paper all over the river banks. When I called in there today Parks Vic had no camping signs and had bulldosed a wall stopping all camping there now.
How many good bush camps are going to be lost through these yobbos who leave their rubbish and
toilet deposits for all to see. It doesn't take much effort to leave a
camp site clean.
bleep ed off with inconsiderate people
Murray
Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:42
Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:42
It is an unfortunate by-product of having the bush more easily accessible these days. 4WD vehicles are 'cheaper', more comfortable, capable and there seems to be little 'need' for thorough training and or the acquisition of 'bush knowledge' any more...just buy the truck and head off with every conceivable 'comfort item'.
To me, and I might be biased, due to my background, there are so many more people out there in the bush who generally have little idea of many things we took for granted 20 or 30 years ago, like the ability to navigate with map and compass, the ability to look after yourself in the bush ....without all the 'creature comforts'...perhaps with a backpack (dread the thought!!), the abilty to handle the extremes of weather without having to clamber into shelter or a caravan...
Much of this seems lost these days and as a consequence, with little education or guidance, we are bound for even worse thoughtless "use" of our more remote areas.
It's a shame, but inevitable and it will unfortunately involve the legislators stepping in and controlling things to cater for the lowest common denominator. There is little that can be done on these types of forums, other than keep encouraging, though I feel that it's probably preaching to the converted.
Just my thoughts.
Cheers,
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:02
Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:02
Mark,
I am so glad I travelled a lot of Aus in the late 60s early 70s. There were few restrictions and few travellers in remote regions. I actually avoid returning to some of the spots I loved especially in the
Kimberley as I am so dissapointed at the changes.
I still have
places that I have not seen so I focus on them.
Many of the folk we come across in difficulty now are ill prepared. Often they have the gear but have no clue of how to do the simple things. Tyre damage due to overloading, failure to drop pressures, but most often just speed is the most common. I often get criticised for travelling slowly but I seem to suffer far fewer problems than the speedsters. Wonder why? The modern 4wds feel so comfortable when pushed hard on rough roads that I think few appreciate the stress it puts the vehicle under.
The few people we have found bogged recently have been in
places that I just can't understand why they headed into. Having said that I have pushed on in a few
places and lived to get very dirty.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Murray R (VIC) - Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:59
Monday, Jan 10, 2011 at 20:59
Mark
It was definitely different 20/30 years ago, less people and people were more responsible and had a bit of bush knowledge and on creature comforts. They also respected the areas they went to and didn't abuse the facilities if there was any not like today and yes I may be preaching to the converted as I hope EO members know what to do.
Alistair
I agree that modern 4wds are more comfortable and don't knock those that have them [lucky ones],
mine drives like a truck. A lot of them drive like there is no tomorrow as we were rounded up and passed while cruising around on the weekend on many occasions and they probably left rubbish at there
lunch stop, I hope not.
Murray
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