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Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 07:56
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We have the worst ever Aussie tragedy unfolding. You tube has a lot of footage and now sunrise on seven. Prayers to everyone effected. Its scary.
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Reply By: didiaust - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 08:02

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 08:02
Stay safe Sharron and prayes & good wishes to all

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 08:03

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 08:03
I sincerly hope not Old Girl !

Its only 2 years since 173 died in fires mostly in our shire of Murrindindi.

All the best , and you can count on support from down south.






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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:16

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:16
I probably should have used equal sorry about that I just cant find sutable words for it all.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:25

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:25
You don't need to old girl , just take care , and no chances , you situation is still evolving . !
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Reply By: Shaver - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:02

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:02
What I cannot understand is why they do not use Jet Ski's to help these stranded people. I do not use one, but can see the potential of these units in a high current potential. They are much quicker than a aluminium boat, have a enormous power to weight ratio & would be much safer than a metal boat in regards to power lines. They can also can operate in shallow water. I would imagine the water pickups would be reasonably protected from debri & weeds . Just a thought !
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Follow Up By: Shaver - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:07

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:07
Disregard the second "potential" & substitute "enviroment". Sorry ! should have read my Post.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 17:56

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 17:56
I wonder what would happen when the Jet Ski ingested some debri or floating sticks etc...

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 22:31

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 22:31
Mostly they have gratings on the inlet to stop that.

In the 60's I used to dive a Hamilton Jet Boat in Fiordland in NZ and they used to supply a quaintly shaped bit to allow you to put it over the stern and clear the gratng. Was like a small pitchfork an a handle.

If that didnt work it meant a swim LOL

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 22:32

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 22:32
Yeah it did dive a few times but I meant drive LOL.


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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:37

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:37
I know from experience jets are a waste of time in floods where there is a lot of floating debris. Ok throttle open shooting over the top, stop to pick up, all that floating straw grass rubbish gets picked up on the screen, no power no steerage Oh Bother. I found the 4 metre tinny with a 7 hp outboard was much better in those conditions.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:45

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:45
A tinny and outboard wouldnt have last 5mins where we were operating.

The river was 15 miles long and in a good rain came up 3ft an hour. We used to work till it got up to about 15 ft.

The lake we ran in was full of petrified trees and a prop wouldnt last long.

We had to blast a channel up for about a mile to even run the Jet.

Have been on a 45ft launch at the wharf at Sandfly Point in Milford Sound with the engine going half ahead just to stay there.

I had sat for nearly two hours in a 14ft clinker dinghy trying to get across the current and couldnt so had to get launch to tow me across.

Lots of fun and had a log or something hit the prop I would have been out to sea in a flash. Horses for courses I guess.

Idling in rubbish was a problem but more so was idling in shallow water as it picked up the gravel and blocked the intake.

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Follow Up By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:56

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:56
Hi Graham.
I would not have used a tinny in those conditions either, that is why I had a jet boat for.
Flood recovery total different conditions.
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Follow Up By: Shaver - Thursday, Jan 13, 2011 at 05:25

Thursday, Jan 13, 2011 at 05:25
Strangely enough on the News, there was a pair of Coppers sitting on Jet Ski's in the flood area. They must be readers of ExplorOz !
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Reply By: Member - Amy G (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:00

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:00
Fingers crossed that people can stay safe and dry. We've just been sent home from work in Brisbane and we're not expected there for a few days at least. The latest BOM update says that the city Brisbane River guage is expected to show at least 3.5 metres of water (3.5 is major flood level) by Thursday.

The Toowoomba flood is just a tragedy. Our sincere condolences to all those who live out that way.
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Reply By: Member - Patrick (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:13

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 14:13
Looks like its going to be Brisbane turn in the horrible weather event.

Both Ipswich and Brisbane City Councils have started to evacuate people from low lying areas as the Bremer/Brisbane rivers are quickly rising. They are talking about water levels higher than the 74' floods which if that happens will put many hundred of home and business's under water. The Strathpine area is also being evaculated as the surrounding area starts to go under water.

It is a very worry time here at the moment. The rain keeps falling at ever increasing rates and it all runs off as the soil is saturated now!

My heart goes out to the people of Toowoomba and near by towns as the death toll is expected to rise sharply from the 8 currently confirmed. I'm hearing that 80 people are now listed as missing so this does not look good for their safety.

Buildings can rebuilt but lives cannot be replaced, so lets hope that no more people loose theirs during this time.

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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 15:55

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 15:55
Inflows into wivenhoe dam have exceeded 1 million megalitres a day - well in excess of '74.
Flood mitigation capacity of wivenhoe is 1.45 million megalitres - they have to empty it (the level above the water supply level) every day and a half.
All 5 floodgates are now open and since the rain isn't stopping it'll barely hold equilibrium at max discharge.

We will be in real trouble in 24-48 hrs if the rain doesn't stop - it doesn't look like it will.

To the families of the dead - my condolences.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:26

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:26
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I have been saying for many years that Brisbane will get another flood, I had to squirm a little this morning when I heard the Brisbane Lord Mayer sprooking on TV that the Wivenhoe Dam mitigation will save Brisbane from a 1974 flood peak, yes if it were almost empty as it was a couple of years ago , and what they're getting is not coming from a Cyclone depression either.
Tjhe other danger area could be around the Gold Coast where the housing estates are almost a sea level with a Canal at the rear , what's going to happen when a deep depression drops big heaps of rain in the Hinterland along with a King Tide, no I certainly wouldn't like to be living there.

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Follow Up By: Nutta - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 20:07

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 20:07
The gold coast is due for a massive flood, if not this time it will come.
Mudgeeraba, carrara, coomera and as you say alot of the canal front homes will be going under.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2011 at 07:49

Thursday, Jan 13, 2011 at 07:49
Well it was partly due to the Wivenhoe holding back the water that has resulted in the level not getting as high.
The dam is at 190% this morning and can hold just under 220% of its normal capacity.
Presumably they mean 120% on top of 100%

Luckily it didnt get as high as antcipated but the Restaurant where my son works will be under as the water was just below the floor at lunchtime yesterday..

They said late last night that they had 10inches in an hour above Murphys creek and thats what caused the mayhem at Toowoomba.

Very sad Ive seen some big floods but nothing like this.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:55

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 18:55
Hi Sharon

We can not believe what is unfolding before our eyes on the TV down here.
Our deepest sympathy goes out to all Queenslanders in this time of dire trouble.

Take care and keep safe in the coming days when it is claimed the floods will be at their peak in Brisbane.

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Reply By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:35

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:35
Sharon,

That rain didn't just fall over your way, we have been battling here in Chinchilla.

No sandbags left so the wheat board is sewing bags for us as we speak :)

Our flood 10 days ago peaked at 7.25m and was just under the 1942 record, they are now predicting us to go close to 8.0m. The number of houses now evacuating is growing by the minute

I heard a rumour today that an 8 yr old drowned in Dalby flood waters :( and they are expecting to be flooded again tonight to a similar level as last night 3.8m

Goondiwindi is going to get flooded, their levee bank is at 10.0m and the peak is said to be 11.0m

Mungindi is starting to evacuate already with the Hospital being evacuated tomorrow morning.

Cheers Kev

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 22:41

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2011 at 22:41
Stay safe Kev....I'm on the Gold Coast at the moment trying to avoid any of these locations. No floodboat, no go :)

Rocky is starting its cleanup soon, though with all the SES guys jumping around the State to help each other, and likewise with the emergency services, we all need to play safe and not risk more lives for the sake of 5 minutes.

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 13:39

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 13:39
We reached 7.5m this morning and it is dropping slowly but I have a feeling that it is going to rise slightly more before it goes away :(

The SES Shed was about 150mm from getting a wet floor. I got called in again at 3am to start shifting essential gear and door knocking houses with a waterfront view that they didn't have at 10pm last night. Quite a few car got wet as they didn't believe us yesterday when we doorknocked and said the water would get as high as it did.

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Reply By: Member - Russnic [NZ] - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:23

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2011 at 15:23
Our thoughts and prayers are with you all.
What a totally different flood than all those a little further west & inland.
Turned on Sky News the other morning and saw what had happened in Toowoomba, then saw other events unfold as the media come to grips with the disaster unfolding.
I am just hopeful that the missing list will come down as communications improve.
Personally checked on the web on my Garage site in Brisbane and it appears the lovely lady and my Troopy stored there will be safe and sound just as I would have thought.
Did my bit on Civil Defence here and have had a lifetime of experience with floods, if I was a few years younger and decades fitter I would be only to happy to go and help.
Top marks to Sir Kev and his SES mates, I bet it is past being a grind by now,
The adrenaline wears off after a while.
All the best in the events that are still going to happen
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