Boy did I have fun today.

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 09, 2003 at 21:11
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Hi All
I just returned from a day of fun and frivolity in the Lerderderg State Park out behind Bacchus Marsh here in Victoria.
I had my reasonably new lady friend with me she is a horse type person and enjoys the great outdoors, and had not been 4wd'ing to any great extent so was looking forward to it.
I was still testing out and learning the in's and out's of my diff locks fitted only recently. Anyway you all got the general idea.

So we where exploring some new tracks and gererally enjoying the bush when the track we were on split into 3 rejoining to one 100 meters further on with each avaliable track facing me filled with a lot of water filled ruts and mud puddles and split by groups of trees.
So I stopped and sized up the 3 tracks from the drivers seat and picked the one that looked the shortest and easiest through the water. (It's only a water filled rut/puddle after all)

I picked the right hand side of this particular track with the view to trying to keep the right hand wheels on as much dry as I could so that I would have some traction, with the left in the mud/ruts. Sounds Good so far eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I approched the track I wanted and drove in and suddenly found the front wheels slide to the left and buried themselves up the the bottom of the bull bar.
At the same time the rear also went to the left with the rear left wheel also sunk to the top of the wheel arch and the rear right slide and sunk down between two logs that suddenly appeared under the mud.

No problem I will just stick it in reverse and she will be right, as you can guess the diff locks worked just great all four wheel spun in the mud with no traction at all and just burried me a little deeper in the mud and going no where.

So I finally get out of the car and have a look at my situation and realise that I am now buried on 3 wheels to the body and the 4th not much better.

No worries I have a warn on the front and my recovery gear so I will just winch her out forwards.
So I Crawl over the bonnet so I wouldn't get my shoes wet or muddy, release the winch, strip of some cable and throw it to dry ground jump of the 4by hook up the winch and off we go. No problems.

The winch pulled me forward and slide further to the left where you guessed it the mud puddle was about 4 ft deep.
Now I have a Landcrusier troopy on a 45 degree angle to the left and getting worse by the second. My heart was now beating a little faster as I could picture my near new 78 series (with diff locks) on it's side in the mud. It was that close.

So realising that I now had to try to pack the wheels with timbers to try and give it some traction and stop it sliding futher left and over on it's side.
My new lady to the rescue she strips of her shoes and jeans without me asking and in her t - shirt and panties steps onto the puddle to render assistance and this is how we found out the puddle was 4 ft deep when she almost disapeared from sight. (No croc's in Victoria thankfully)
Anyway after a hour or so of heart in the mouth and I need a good panel beater and how do I explain this to the insurance company type feelings and shifting the the winch point a number of times to get the right angle of pull we finally got it out.

Afterwards we had a drink and cleaned my jocks if you know what I mean to calm down and we discussed it I realised that I made a very grave mistake in assuming that the puddle was shallow and not getting out to check it on foot first even probing with a stick would have told me it was a hell of a lot deeper than I first thought. And saved me a lot of heart ach.
My second mistake was not having the ability to winch backwards, if I had done this first by using say a Tifor or a second vehicle I would only have had to winch backwards 2 to 3 meters to get the rear wheels back on dry ground and would probably been able to the drive out backwards.
So in the end I scared the crap out of myself and learned a hell of lot about not assuming anything in this business, I also am going to buy a Tifor to add to the recovery gear.
One last thing I did not have to take my shoes of or get wet she did all the wet/muddy work. I knew I brought her for a reason, great bit of recovery gear she is.

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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Nov 09, 2003 at 23:41

Sunday, Nov 09, 2003 at 23:41
John,
You are not the first one to get into that situation...I think we have all been there.
But you got yourself out and have a tale to tell. Hope your girlfriend stays. Mine is still with me after 35 years but these days she declines invitations for a day out in the bush :-)
Cheers,
Willem

Always going somewhere
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 00:42

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 00:42
Hi Willem
Thanks for your reply.
The surpising thing is how easy it is to get yourself into trouble.
I am a pretty conservative type person and generally very careful about what I do, I have been through quote a few tracks with simmilar puddles/ruts this one was a bloody great hole and nothing like I expected.
After that we checked every suspicious puddle we came across, and laughed ourself stupid everytime we did.
Nervous tension I think.

Regards
John
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Reply By: Member - Ken - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 00:13

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 00:13
John

After that effort (hers), if I were you I would seriously consider trying to make her a permanent companion and if necessary, learn to ride a horse.
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 00:36

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 00:36
Ken
Thanks for the reply, I actually do ride a horse much to her surprise quite well in fact.
Now I think about it she also made some smart comment about how her horse would not have got bogged like we did. LOL.

Regards
John
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Reply By: Prado Boy - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:10

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:10
Don't lose that gilr mate - she's a treasure...
When it comes to mud & holes - it always pays to get out - grab a nice long sturdy stick - and have a "poke" around in there to see what the deal is. Has saved me major embarassment a couple of times - and major problems when alone (with no help for miles) once or twice too.
Must have been some hole - the 78's are great with those diff locks. Not much stops them. Glad you lived to tell the tale!
Cheers,
Prado Boy
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:20

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:20
Hi Prado Boy
It was a hell of a bog hole no firm bottom just a quogmire.
When you got no grip on any wheel diff locks don't make any difference.
As I said a great learning curve about the limitations of my vehicle or probably any vehicle in this situation.

It still is a graet vehicle I must say I am still very happy with it.
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Reply By: mrdesmo - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 03:16

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 03:16
LOL...good story, gotta love that sinking feeling!
Marry her..... ;-)
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:22

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:22
Hi mrdeso
I assure you I did not love that sinking feeling, not nice at all.
Marry her ??????? er I don't think so been their done that if you know what I mean. Not that keen to repeat the experience that quickly.
Regards John
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Reply By: Matt M - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 07:56

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 07:56
Mate, sounds like she was itching for reason to jump neck deep into the mud! Marry her!!!!
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:23

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:23
Hi Matt
Please see above reply re marrying her.
Regards
John
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 10:16

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 10:16
Great area hey'
even greater story
sounds like a benny hill show with all the pants coming off.
good value
gotta love the 4by stories
Wouldn't happen in a Nissan???????????
lmao
just kidding1999 NISSAN NAVARA DUALCAB
DIESEL 3.2 & SPRINGY CARLTON TOY
2 awestruck kids (dads driving!)
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:31

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:31
Hi Toonfish
Yeah it is a great area I will certainly return to experience more of it, with a big stick to check the bog holes on board. LOL.

It would have beeen worse in your Nissan the mud would have been up to the window's and not just the top of the wheel arches.

I repeated the story for the laugh but hopefully to make others aware how easy it is to get youself into trouble.
This was no fault of the vehicle it was my mistake pure and simple.
I was alone and no doubt if I had another vehicle it would have been much easier to handle.
But you must stop and think about what you are doing, complacency is a disaster waiting to happen.

Regards
John
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Reply By: Member - Russell - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:56

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:56
Good story John, brings back some memories. Your stress levels seem higher when you're by yourself too - no-one else to help you out. Another vehicle makes a big difference as a recovery aid, and I try to go with someone else if I can - but you can't always get someone..... I've also thought that front mounted winches have some limitations when you want to go backwards - isn't there an electric winch that's 'portable' so you can attach it to front or back?Russell S
Prado RV6
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:54

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:54
Hi Russell
Stress what stress, No problem mate when you see your $60 plus thousand dollar car just about to topple over in the mud you don't get stressed. Or do you ?????? I must have been so stressed I can't remember.

Thats why I said I am going to add aTifor to my recovery gear.
One of those Magnums from ARB only about $400-, Damm sight cheaper than a tow truck or two out back of beyond.

Thanks for the post.
Regards
John
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Reply By: diamond(bendigo) - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 13:30

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 13:30
sounds like a lovely day you had.
let us know next time you adventure out always looking for a sunday day trip.
ps can i borrow your lady friend and ill put her in my recovery kit lolback by popular demand
:-)
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:58

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:58
Hi Diamond
Will be returning soon, always happy to make new friends with like interests.
Drop me an email (john@westerndiving.com.au) and we can touch base over meeting if you like.

I will ask if she is avalible for other forum readers recovery kits. LOL.

Regards
John
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Reply By: duncs - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 15:21

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 15:21
Hey John,

I too have been in one of those holes. I have done it on my own, no other car and no other people.

Just recently I spent 3&1/2 hours bogged, maybe not as deep but just as stuck.

Best bit of revovery gear I had that day was a mate willing to have a go. Just happend to be a pretty lady I call the Missus. The kids helped a bit too.

Best thing is laughing about it now.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:59

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:59
Hi duncs
Whats that saying Women you can't do without them.

Yeah agree about the laughing.

John
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Reply By: Member - Luxoluk - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:07

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 20:07
You didn't mention whether there are any sisters?
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Follow Up By: John - Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 21:00

Monday, Nov 10, 2003 at 21:00
Sorry Luxluk only child.
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Tuesday, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:38

Tuesday, Nov 11, 2003 at 12:38
John,

Sounds like the new lady friend is a keeper!

:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
http://www.users.bigpond.com/flatdog
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