Strange Circle of dead vegetation
Submitted: Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 00:40
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equinox
Hi again.
Part of last years GDEC expedition was to
check out a circular feature that was found on Google Earth. We were hoping it was a crater however it was found to be a circular patch of dead vegetation.
It is located at 23 59 41.84S 125 50 42.06E
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Maybe it is a freak of coincidence, and is just one of those things.
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Maybe there is another totally rational, scientific and documented reason, I don't know.
Any ideas?
Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:06
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:06
lightining strike ...???? maybe
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:47
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:47
Not sure about that...the area is not burnt. Just sucked of moisture perhaps!
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:58
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:58
Definately a lightning strike, seen them many times, the ground doesn't burn where it strikes, it just kills all the vegatation.
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:18
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:18
Hi Rosss,
What do you think happened? Did the lightning extract all the moisture away instantaneously or did it extract nutrients from the soil and in consequence over time the vegetation died?
The was no sign of lighting remnants, such as this one which I found a few years ago.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 15:03
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 15:03
so what makes that a 'lightining strike" not a "silly" question but interested as to the reason ..
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 15:58
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 15:58
That's what happens when sand/soil is fused by the heat generated by 100 000's of volts. I found that east of
Hyden and had it confirmed by Geologists I was working with. There's a name for it too however can't recall it now.
I have seen numerous examples now over the years.
The sample I have would sh atter if I threw it on the pavers, it's very porous.
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Follow Up By: Rosss- Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 23:24
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 23:24
Hi Equinox,
Don't know why everything dies on a lightning strike. How I know about this is many years ago when we had a sugar cane
farm our area was bad for lightning strikes and we found all these dead circles in the blocks of cane and thought it must have been some sort of disease, But when it was inspected by the local mill inspectors they said it was common in our area, but could not offer any explanation as to why the vegetation died.
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Reply By: wozzie (WA) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:15
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:15
Spaceship landing site, Min Min perhaps ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:28
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 01:28
maybe an """ Earth Freckle"""
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:31
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:31
Those aliens that make crop circles have now started on spinifiex...
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Follow Up By: Fiona & Paul - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 07:27
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 07:27
I agree with you Wozzie, here's nobody out there so what else could it be except a pace mat for Julia and Wayne Swan trying to work out what's going on.
Regards
Paul R
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Reply By: Gary.L - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:56
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:56
I think someone is spending far too much time on Google Earth to pick that up:)
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:19
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:19
Well that's probably true Gary :)
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Reply By: Member - Michael and Chris (QL - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 06:21
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 06:21
Lawn grubs ha ha
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Follow Up By: Whitewulf - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 07:04
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 07:04
LOL
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 08:10
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 08:10
My guess would be a fungus.
Val
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 08:38
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 08:38
Hi
Equinox,
I remember seeing a documentary some 25 to 30 years ago about ring worm.
Now I kid you not!!
Ring worm is apparently a fungus and starts at a centre point and gradually spreads outwards enlarging the perimeter as it goes creating near perfect circles.
The scientist was standing in a field and showing this large circle, close to the size of the one in the picture you have shown. The grass on the outer edge was much more vibrant and lush than the grass any where else. There were several circles in this one field. The doco was shot in England and had nothing to do with crop circles etc. etc. Genuinely it was a doco on parasites.
Perhaps this is the answer.
Failing that I go with the crop circles theory. Or perhaps you have entered the twilite zone? LOL.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Reply By: Mick O - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:02
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:02
If it hadn’t been at such a remote location, I’d have sworn someone had sprayed a perfect circle of herbicide. Pretty good resolution on the GE shot as well. Looks like a shallow crater all right. Pity it wasn’t. Would have been a great find.
Cheers Mick
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Reply By: AGNI4x4 - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:51
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 09:51
My guess would be a very large bird poop .................. heavy in sulphur content perhaps.
Chuckling
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:24
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:24
You may be on the right track, with the bird anyway - maybe a fungus carrying bird??
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 10:27
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 10:27
I would go with the fungus theory.........we get them in our pasture at times...sometimes smallish in size and never big enough to be seen from google earth............thank goodness as it would not be much grass left !
they look weird and give rise to all thoughts and theorys that are over the top but I do believe it is a fungus as the circular spreading is typical of its generation and spread
pity about some of the stupid comments you get.......posts like yours on this subject are an excellent way to share a find and seek a plausible answer and help educate us all as well
cheers
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:21
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:21
Thanks bungarra, that's a few votes for fungus.
I wonder how it would have got there, blowing in the wind, or maybe a bird?
Cheers
Alan
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Follow Up By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:42
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 12:42
Hi Alan
Wind or bird carrying it would both be plausible...........or the spores could have been lying latent for years and for whatever reason some soil conditions or one of the pieces of vegetation weakened or was stressed for whatever reason and succumbed to an attack ...........enabling the fungus to multiply and strengthen rapidly and in sufficient numbers to radiate outwards and overcome the surrounding areas (that may also have been under stress for example.... moisture)
maybe what stopped the outward spread was a rainfall event that allowed the vegetation to respond and grow and overcome the attack....
or maybe the attack is slow and insidious and is still slowly happening and spreading and another visit to the site in years to come may show it still radiating outwards?
my theories anyway
Graeme
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 14:59
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 14:59
form of "die-back" as found in forests (Jarrah Die-Back) maybe perhaps .....
Next time....... would be interesting to get some soil samples, dont need much, and get a lab to do some tests, should be able to get CSIRO to do it in the name of "rescearch" say one from middle, one every 4 feet out and one right on the rim and one outside of it ....... now that would have been interesting eh ....
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Reply By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 18:44
Saturday, Feb 05, 2011 at 18:44
G'day Al,
It was indeed an interesting find. As to what caused it, speculation was as interesting then as it is with this post.
Why would a circle of spinifex/native shrubs/grasses die off in a circle? How it happened? -I am no wiser than the next bloke- but I tend to go with the fungus theory.
Would be interesting to re-visit this in a few years time to see if the circle had increased in size.
Just another of the deserts many mysteries my friend.
Cheers
Michael
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Reply By: BadgerOne - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:05
Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:05
It's caused by people tearing about in a circle on quad bikes. :)
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Reply By: get outmore - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:43
Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:43
I dont know but last time i went to investigate a possible meteor site with another guy that gets on here the circle was not actually due to a crater
- the opposite it was flat ground with a slight hump and runoff from this hump had resulted in lighter vegetation on its dome and thicker around its base
I struggled to pick up the subtle change on the ground but on GE it was quite visable
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