What is the problem with V8 landcruisers

mmmmmm there are a lot more parts in a diesel that simply can not be fixed out bush, points have been long gone and plugs can last up to 50,000klms, probally more i dont know, i would rather pay for 6 plugs than 6 injectors ...
Electricials are just as complicated in diesels these days as petrols and both have computers ..
But .... horses for courses as you say,
Cheers
Joe

I replaced the platium Plugs in my Jack at 130000ks.
We have over 130 vehicles in our fleet at work and generally have more issues with diesels then petrol. Actually I can only remember two issues with petrol motors. The amount of sensors and stress in a modern high power diesel will mean they will rarely last more then 300000ks. Admitly a lot of our diesels do work in a hard enviroment.
Cheers Pete

Yeah, I'm showing my age. You are right of course about the points. Petrol vehicles however now also run on injectores as part of their "no points" technology.

yeh but even they are very cheap and you dont have the injector pump ......
I have been looking for a replacement for my 1HZ and done HEAPS of reading and still dont know what way to go, i am very seriousally thinking about a V8 petrol, something out of the later injected units, i can get in "beefed" up and a lot of gear on it for still under $10,000 .......
Anyway fishin is on tv so gotta stop dreamin
Cheers
Joe

I asked the question about the price of petrol being cheaper than diesel and was told it is because their is no lead in it now.??????

I don't think it has anything to do with lead. In most parts of the worls, diesel has always been cheaper than petrol. It should be, it is cracked off at a lower level than petrol in the distillation process where fuel is produced from crude oil.. The price of diesel in OZ always seemed out of wack and in the past was explained as economy of scale here due to higher petrol demand. If this is so, it appeares that increasing demand for diesel has brought our prices back to relativity with the rest iof the world.

have you ever driven a V8 petrol L/cruiser if not borrow one from a friend or a car yard and go for a burl. If you have driven one whats your objection? Its all very good to say "I wouldn't give two bob for one" lets us know why!

Hey dindy I thought I did, any way were I come from you we haven't see a petrol 4WD, unless it is the occasional tourist that has one.

I live in West Arnhemland petrol vehicle are fround upon anyway, although even know we have Opal fuel I don't think that ratio will change, you see diesel vehicle just work up here.

Any way you love your car and that's all that matters to you, my car does what I need it to do and that's what matters to me.

Mining company issue is moot point, the heavy equipment (trucks/dozers/graders etc) they have on site use diesel, so makes sense to have a common fuel for those and light vehicles.

Also one mining site I worked at restricted petrol coming on site for 'safety reasons', could only be brought on site for specific purposes and with protocols to minimise risk. And basically the reason it would come on to site was to start fires easily for fire fighting training... And even then usually made do with diesel.

Mining companies get their diesel for at least 38 cents cheaper per litre as do all primary industries. That is why they use diesel, as well as the fuel commonality
and it is only since GST has been in the rebate has been extended to petrol as well, for primary industries and certain heavy vehicle road users.

Please note that the rebate was only available for off road use but has been extended to on road use for certain users and industries.
Cheers, Bruce.

For once I agree with you Robin ! (200 Petrol owner, that doesn't use oil). Anyone buying a set of injectors for a 200 Diesel is in for a rude shock pricewise. Having one Turbo long term to overhaul is bad enough without the added expense of two. Yes diesels are good & I have owned a few, but I still get a little p-ssed off when my shirt contacts the back of my garage wall & I get the proverbial black soot over it when I am going out (one day I will clean it).

Forgot to ask you Robin, is it true that the Petrol Patrol only has one fuel tank whereapon the "Grenade" has a Sub ?

Thats true Shaver , the car that needs it most had its sub removed as part of a cost cutting measure, along with several ohter "features".

The plus side though is that there's an export standard replacement sub-tank made locally that holds 75lt instead of the original 36lt and fits in better.

I factored this into purchase price.

Robin,

You wouldn't by any chance know whether they make a sub tank for a 200 Sahara Diesel. A Mate needs one that doesn't require the spare to be moved to a rear rack.

No I don't know about that but the company that makes export tanks is LRA in Lilydale 9739-5667 , worth a call , they do lots of tanks for Patrols in middle east etc.

By trucks I assume that you are talking heavy vehicle haulage etc, granted huge diesels designed for that purpose are the thing no argument. My point was in relation to common everyman recreational 4x4's and the perceived advantage of diesel engines as opposed to petrol power.

Michael.
I was going to comment earlier re my experience from the late '50/60's logging trucks.
The old Inters., Diamond T, Reo, White etc. with the old petrol motors were a nightmare with burnt valves, overheating, fuel use etc. until the diesel Macks, Mann etc., Perkins/Cummins conversions came along.
Always gonna be horses for courses,
But most courses suit diesel.
mike

Dindy.
Mate of mine has a petrol 60 series Toyota wagon which now has over 500k.km. on the clock.
The engine (untouched except for normal maint.) runs like a clock.
(but we wont mention the gearbox howl)
He lives and works in the bush, would not swap it for anything.
And thats the course he takes!
mike

"My point was in relation to common everyman recreational 4x4's and the perceived advantage of diesel engines as opposed to petrol power"

My old girl is far from a "common everyman recreational 4x4"
She is my tug for my Work Trailer, Horse Float and yes our Camper, it is 90% of the time towing something.

When I do get the chance to go bush, I find that I am running up the bum of petrol's(manuals) on step declines. Now whether or not that is bad gear selection on their part I don't know, but I love the engine braking of a 4.2 TD.
On inclines, I find a diesel just crawls up most hills with out having to raise a sweet.

I guess Dindy it just like why do you follow a certain V8 supercar team or drink a cerain brand of beer or spirit, You have your reasons for choosing your poison, and you know what? thats cool.

As a whole package, I choose a 4.2T-D 80 Series manual which I'm very happy with.

should be "argue" not agree to much good wine tonight hahaha

Lol, we've had a 75 series, put a Brunswicks Chev in it, then went to an 80 series with a Brunswicks Chev diesel in it. Then a plain old 75 series ute, upgraded that to a 79 Series Turbo Diesel Ute.
Finally something different, we have a 2010 Jeep Wrangler Petrol. (only had a Subaru Forrester and other standard sedans otherwise as 2nd vehicles)l.

I must say for a first petrol we are rather disappointed with the power, well more so lack of acceleration and generally power for a petrol in regards to the Wrangler. I understand that a diesel will always have more torque so we expected the petrol would have had more of that higher end power. Now if this isn't something that can be fixed through the ECU management I know for a fact that my Husband will want another engine down the track (a v8 petrol?) or go back to diesel? That is if the Wrangler was to become as high on the likability list as his beloved 79 series td ute was. Don't get me wrong "Landcruiser Man" really does think the Jeep is great but I think because of the lack of power he is having doubts about the decision to go for a petrol vehicle this time.
I think there is still a bit of a learning curve to overcome when it comes to offroad fourwheel driving as well, it's a manual and will require more driver control at the foot.

Anyway if you're talking about petrol vs diesel for economy and fuel price. We considered all that and servicing costs etc, in the end I figured out that you would only really come out in front if you kept the car for like 10 years, now I don't know about others but we've tended to change cars withing the 5yr period for one reason or another, and the $10k saved in the original purchase price pays for either a lot of accessories or a whole lot of petrol in the mean time.