deep cycle battery thingy

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:16
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hi folks,
just wonderring if anyone out there knows about or has bought one of these.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/12v-Deep-Cycle-Battery-Powerboard-volt-meter-Camping-/330525462334?pt=AU_Sport_Camping_Hiking_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item4cf4da4f3e

I seen it on ebay on my quest for some new deep cycles. Looks like a good idea, just wondering if anyone had one and could tell us what its like.
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:39

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:39
Hi Eli

Unless I'm blind I couldn't find anything about the capacity of the battery. It's fine to say it runs all sorts of things but for how long?

I suspect it has limited capacity - a full sized deep cycle battery costs in most instances more than the whole kit they are selling.

Maybe send him a message and ask for the capacity and brand name of battery inside just to be sure.


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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:45

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:45
Phil,

It's a 12v powerboard ;) It does not come with a battery, you need to add your own.

Hope that helps,
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Follow Up By: Eli J - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:47

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:47
hey phil.
Didnt expect a reply tonight, was just about to head off to lala land and check for replies tomorrow.
from what i can see it is not a battery, nor does it have any stored power. It is like a power board to attach to battery set up. Plug things into box.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:03

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:03
Sorry guys maybe I should be in la la land -lol.

It’s an interesting concept but you need to determine what use you would put the device.

If you do hit and run camping i.e. move everyday then I think I would prefer permanent vehicle mounted plugs, so gear doesn’t come out of the vehicle only to be repacked the next day.

If however you're in one spot for say 10 days then it might be useful to run light leads, chargers and such - that way ensuring someone doesn’t say unplug the fridge to charge their iPod and then forget to plug it back in.

I tend to favour vehicle mounted plugs and lots of them.

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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:05

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:05
not to bad an idea and cost seems good to me, i would check postage but to buy all the bits and make it you would be getting very close if not more ...
It has s/s screws and looks well built, i like it !!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Eli J - Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:25

Sunday, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:25
yeah was thinking along your lines mate. seems well priced, all those bits and pieces add up, and they use 8mm cable too!! i like it. Might give him a call tomorrow and sus him out, but looks good.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 00:03

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 00:03
Hi,

It's not 8mm cable. 7.92mm² is an area not a diameter. At best depending on number of strands it could be 4mm but somewhere around 3-4mm cable.

The sockets are all cheap cigarette lighter sockets. I wouldn't want to run 15A through them for too long.

At 15A though you are going to start getting a bit of voltage drop on 3mm cable, especially if you plug in a few high current draw devices like a laptop with your lights, fridge etc.

The devices plugged into the sockets aren't going to be "protected" unless you downrate the fuses to something appropriate for what you are plugging in.

Just about everything you plug in with a cigarette lighter plug on it these days is fused in the plug so the 15A fuses on each circuit are redundant. You could use one 15A fuse on the whole lot.

I've made quite a few of these but usually use Hella/Merits plugs, 6mm cable & a single fuse. You can do it for about $70-80 for 4 sockets on a similar junction box.

Honestly for what you get for $185 you might as well go and buy 2 of the 3 way cigarette lighter adapters from Bursons for $15 each & join the leads into a $5 Anderson plug.

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Follow Up By: Eli J - Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:37

Monday, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:37
Rang bloke today.
yes you are right about cable thickness rating being 7.92mm2, or as he said 8 b&s with 112 strands.

He did mention that the size of the standard fuses were to be dropped to 10amp as you said, they are too big. He did recommend to change according to your appliance if needed. I guess its hard for them to fuse a socket if they dont know what is going into it.

I also asked about the need to have so many fuses when the plugs themselves have fuses. He said that although there are many things that do have fuses in there plugs, there a many without. He said with only one master fuse, If one of these appliances without a fuse in ciggy plug malfunctions for whatever reason and blows the one fuse, then everything else is cut off from power.

Made sense to me. I would hate to be out fishing for the day to, to get back and find one of the kids has blown the fuse trying to plug in there ipod charger or whatever, and beers gone warm GRRRR!

I did however, for the exercise, go through my 12volt camp gear to check which plugs did have fuses. To my surprise i found a majority of the things i would use in it, have no fuses in plug including 3x Primus fluro lights, shower pump, and fridge (yeah yeah," what fridge doesnt have a fuse in plug "you ask. My repco job . Had 3 years never let me down though, works awesome at fraction of cost.)

After plenty of thought i reckon its good. I think based on my talk to bloke, it is far superior to those 3 way ciggy lighter things. Wiring wise, fusing, voltmeter.....I think i will get one.







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