E-readers - any good???

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Hi all! When I travel I usually have a large pile of paperbacks on the back seat, some of which get read. My local library is not keen on lending me books for 3 months, especially popular titles, which means I usually end up buying the books I take.
I have been thinking an e-reader may be the way to go as far as getting rid of some clutter. The Kindle 3 gets lots of positive reviews but was wondering if any of you have used one in 'real life' situations (ie on the road) and if so what your thoughts are. User friendly? Easy to read in bright sunlight? Robust - would you use one in hostile environments (eg beach)? Accessories - will I need to spend a heap on aftermarket gizmos? etc etc

Looking forward to your replies

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Reply By: Stevesub1 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:20

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:20
I use an iPad, great. Just finished a book last night on it. Also movies, email, net, games,

90% of my business stuff, etc, etc. Love it. There are plenty of freeware ebooks out there, some of which are by popular modern authors.

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Posted from my iPad while on the road.

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Reply By: age - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:29

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:29
TG

Have a Google around for the Nook colour version ereader. Runs Android in the back end and very easy to convert into a fully operating Android Tablet PC. Load the Kindle app for Android and you have all bases covered in one device.

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Follow Up By: tg123 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:59

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:59
Stevesub & age

Thanks for your replies - am concerned re using a LCD screen in sunlight - my laptop's not good at this - are ipads & Nooks any better???

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:08

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:08
Hi TG,
One of our daughters gave me an Amazon kimble just before we left home, along with a case to protect it, and i am reading 'books' on it which download in just a minute or two. It has 3G and connects directly to the Amazon website. Requires you to set up an Amazon account and the credit card is immediately billed the amount.

I initially had difficulty using the small keypad and ended up setting up the account online via my laptop, but registered it successfully using the kimble.
(maybe I am just a bit 'slow' at doing it but there are instructions to guide you through the process)!

Also, you are limited to using the Amazon kimble e-books but there are thousands to choose from. The battery is charged via USB connection, however I think you can also get a 240v charger. Not sure how long it would take to run the battery down but I connect and charge every week or so, and it is faster than the phone to charge.

The screen is fine to use in direct sunlight and easy to read, unlike mobile phones, laptops and camera screens. You can change the text size and line spacing, also have it read to you. Probably there are other features I haven't explored at this stage too.

I wouldn't think there would be any problems using it on the beach unless you dropped it in the water!

Books have cost me under $10 and one was under $5, considerably cheaper than buying new from bookshops.

If you ever fill up the space on it you can have Amazon archive books for you and it stores them until you want to read them again. Not sure how many you can store on it before you would want to do this - lots I would think.

I have currently 9 titles on mine and am reading the third one.

It does cut down the weight and space required in carrying books around but if more than one of you wants to use it, you would have to buy a second one. (In this case, apparently you can send books between the two at no charge, or at least that is what I understand happens.)

Hope this helps you.

I haven't used any of the other types available and wouldn't have bought it for myself but I do love it.

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Follow Up By: tg123 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:57

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:57
Thanks Heather - the Kindle's sounding good - seems simple enough!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 18:41

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 18:41
Another vote for the Kindle, we've got the A5 sized one so it is about the same size as a paperback novel but much thinner. As Heather said it works well, virtually the same as a normal novel to read and the text can be changed to the size and font you prefer. Puts itself to sleep if you forget to turn it off and always remembers where you were in the book. A battery charge lasts about a week and it recharges very quickly using the 12v ipod charger with the kindle lead or anything with a normal USB socket.
We bought it direct from Amazon, you can buy books at any time via a free 3G connection and as Heather said it charges to your credit card, literally takes seconds to download.
You can also put your own documents on it, it reads PDF's and I've got the vehicle workshop manuals on it as well. Can store the equivalent of 1500 books.
We've taken it away on one outback trip and it travelled well in its leather case.
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Follow Up By: tg123 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:14

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:14
Thanks Pete!!
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:47

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:47
I just remembered something that I've gone to do quite a few times now when engrossed in reading on the kindle is that I've gone to turn the page! so that will give you an idea how like a normal page the screen is, no glare and yes you will need some sort of illumination to read at night.
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Follow Up By: Member - Heather G (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:57

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:57
Hi Peter, so have I, yet when I first started to use it I felt quite awkward and wondered whether I would ever feel like I was reading a book!

I use my headlight at night when I read in bed, so as to avoid waking my husband. That works ok for me.

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Follow Up By: StormyKnight - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:12
Yep another vote here for the kindle, week long battery life, inbuilt internet so you can browse & download new books directly from the device & excellent screen for reading in sunlight.

There is no backlight (thats how you get the long battery life) but a normal led booklight would suffice for personal reading at night.

Its small & thin, you can buy a protective leather/plastic cover much like a book cover to protect it whilst travelling.

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Follow Up By: Member - IdahOz - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:30

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:30
Yep, I loooove my kindle, very user friendly, the screen is just like a real book because they use 'electronic ink' not LED, and that is also why the charge lasts so long, i just ordered a cover with built in light for mine. There are places on the 'net other than amazon.com where you can get thousands of books for free and even amazon has loads of free and 99cent ones. The kindle is ONLY good as an ebook, it will surf the web but is pretty useless for that, again because of the electronic ink thing which makes it so good for reading. I got an iphone around the same time and sometimes i get silly and try to get the kindle to work by touchscreen!! (it doesn't) My only 'complaint' is that you cannot 'arrange' content on your home page, whatever you have been reading or downloaded most recently is at the top of your list and everything you add moves everything else further down the list.
It will connect anywhere there is mobile phone service if you get the 3g one. A really nice feature i have used is that if you fancy a title, you can download the first chapter or so for free, if you like it, buy the book, if not, try something else and no money lost.
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Reply By: GrumpyOldFart - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:22

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 17:22
TG
I had the same thoughts as you
Found an informative review here

http://www.cnet.com.au/amazon-kindle-3-339305659.htm

I do most of my reading at night so will check out the light that is available
and the other offerings. Although I like the simple black & white idea
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Reply By: FJB - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 18:56

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 18:56
I've just bought a Kindle and read three books straight off - no problem with the eyes. It is so good my wife insisted we buy a second one. I can't get WiFi from where I am so I download to the computer. You need a cover for protection but the aftermarket ones are only $10.
I also downloaded a conversion program to convert some of the other formats to suit the Kindle - works well. Go for it.
Good price direct from Amazon in US and very fast delivery.
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Reply By: Member - Leon A (SA) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 19:28

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 19:28
my other half has a Sony e reader and loves it. We looked at a Kindle but apparently you can only buy books from Amazon. We were told not to get a backlit reader as it does damage to your eyes.
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 19:53

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 19:53
at the risk of high jacking this thread....what is the benefit of a dedicated e reader as against simply using a laptop?.......I am assuming that an electronic copy is downloaded so why not do so and read on the laptop?.

or am I missing something important or specific to an e reader?

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Follow Up By: tg123 - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:12

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:12
As you can see I don't own an e reader but I do own a laptop. I have downloaded the Kindle app to my PC and have also downloaded and read several of the free books available from the Kindle Store and Gutenberg.org to 'get a feel' for e reading. So why not just use the laptop? Firstly it's quite heavy and gets hot when sitting on your lap. Secondly it has quite a limited battery life so 'reading' on the laptop away from the camper is not a long term option. Thirdly, it's bulky to lug around. Fourthly (?) the screen is all but impossible to read in sunlight (bright or otherwise).
In reality I want to be able to hold and read a 'book' rather than something as large as a laptop so I think an e reader will perhaps fit the bill.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:20

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:20
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Smaller, more portable and purpose built for the job...like.. why dont you use a PC instead of a Laptop :). Obviously you can do the same thing on a laptop (or a PC, netbook, PDA, PNA etc) but E-readers have been purpose built so have advantages. Those happy with other options (you?) should continue on as normal, no obligation to get one.

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Follow Up By: StormyKnight - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:19

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:19
1. Battery life,
2. ease of holding (you can read anywhere you can read a paper book),
3. non-backlight display (sunlight compatible & doesn't strain your eyes).
4. some have internet built in @ no charge for connection to download more books (kindle)

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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 20:29

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 20:29
Hi TG

We have yet to get ours, but we're looking forward to ease of holding and page turning for arthritic hands. We are tossing up between eco-reader and Sony at present. Choice magazine reveiwed them last year, and there have been a few threads with first hand reports on a number of brands on www.caravanersforum.com.

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Follow Up By: Member - Min (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 21:30

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 21:30
Hi Motherhen,

I have a Sony and am very happy with it. I bought a cover with a light, $50+ but worth it.

It's great to be able to change the size of the text to suit your needs.

We can both be reading a book at the same time because you download to laptop or desktop and copy to ereader so you have legally two copies. However, I find reading from the ereader much easier on the eyes that reading from computer.

As for turning pages, you could do it with gloves on - I'm thinking of those freezing nights when camping.

I downloaded about 10 books in one hit which is much better than buying one at a time. That way you've always got a choice.

Every time you open your book it's on the right page - no more bookmarks to be lost under the bed!

I can't say whether it's better or worse than the others because it's the only one I've used.

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Reply By: SDG - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:41

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 21:41
The other option is to go to the second hand books shops in each town. Pick up a book for about five bucks, or swap with a book you have already read. If you did not like the book, just sell or swap it at the next town. If you do like it, add it to your collection at home.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 22:14

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 22:14
Friends have just bought a Kindle ( not a kimble) and quite like it

They bought it for her mother to read because she has arthritic hands

Only thing with them is the Amazon library is limited in Australia compared with USA.

There is a workaround like this.

Set up an account with an American Address It could be a shop or anything.

Buy a prepaid Entropay virtual visa card from www.entropay.com

Set this as your payment method and billing address in your Amazon account

and the mailing address as your home.

Allows you to access the American Amazon library.

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Follow Up By: tg123 - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 00:05

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 00:05
Sounds interesting! Are any bills/ accounts actually sent to this 'dummy' address in the US or is it used solely to determine your supposed country of residence. Haven't heard of entropay - have you had any personal experience?

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 09:31

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 09:31
NO experience but it is commonly done and that is a rewrite of a tip in a PC magazine.

Amazon put the invoice in the parcel so I wouldn't think if you set the account up to get online updates etc , that any actual mail would go to that address.


They don't send bills you have to pay up front.

Its only to set residency boundaries.




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Follow Up By: cycadcenter - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:03

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:03
If anyone wants to use my address in the USA just send me an email to

cycadcenter at msn dot com

and I'll send the details

Regards

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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 22:29

Saturday, Feb 12, 2011 at 22:29
Ereader comparison

Maybe this will help

After research I am about to get a Kobo with WiFi from Borders

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Follow Up By: tg123 - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 00:07

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 00:07
I am interested in what made the Kobo a standout for you over the opposition. Hope you don't mind sharing!

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Follow Up By: Member - troy s (WA) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:46

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:46
We just got ourselves a KOBO too, well actually it was for the wife, but somehow I managed to get hooked on reading too!
We personally didn't do too much research, but were recomended this one too us, got it from angus & Robertson too, so easy to get hold of on the move.
The big advantage of the KOBO, and I'm not sure on the others here, is that it'll read a bunch of different files including pdf, so you're not limited to one 'library'.
That all said, we're rapt with it, cost $180 instore, with 100 books on it, long battery life, easy to read in the sun etc.
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Follow Up By: Member - troy s (WA) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:50

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:50
My wife just informed me, that some library's now let you download ebooks from there library, so not sure what file type they use as we haven't yet used this.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:55

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 08:55
TG

As Troy said - File formats - not tied to a library - has eink screen to look after your eyes - great battery life - etc

The ones with colour screens are aimed at newspapers /comics where colour is part of the presentation. Only seeking to just read books.

Of course, laptops /tablets phones are possible but heavy to hold and heavy on battery life. The dedicated ereader only uses minimal power to flip pages and holds the page display forever and is optimised for reading with font size and serif fonts which are good for old eyes.

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Follow Up By: tg123 - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:54

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:54
Alan
Investigated this file format thing - it seems that epub is a 'standard' but it is not supported by the Kindle. However I have found a file conversion programme called Calibre (freebie) which can convert many different formats (eg epub to mobi (Kindle format)) which can then be loaded into your e-reader.
Kindle seems to be ticking all the boxes - will have to look into the dummy billing address and virtual credit card thing, although 500 000 odd books at Amazon Aust isn't too shabby!

Thanks everyone for your informative responses!!

Cheers
TG
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Follow Up By: cycadcenter - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:00

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:00
Hi Alan,

Not too sure if it will effect Borders Australia but Borders in the USA will probably file for Bankrupcy here next week and close all their stores.

Regards

Bruce in USA
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Reply By: Livin On The Road - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 14:54

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 14:54
My nine year old son, eight year old daughter and myself all have a kindle. My husband and I have iPads. My husband doesn't mind using the iPad as an ereader, but I find the screen and style is not to my taste for reading books. I use the kindle for reading books. I find it is not only one of the cheapest dedicated ereaders on the market ($139) it also performs it's function well as a dedicated ereader. The iPad (in my opinion) is a tablet that I use for internet, email, and some apps.
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:11

Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:11
I have an iriver ereader and could not receommend it.

I have trouble downloading books, and when I do download onto the reader the writing is smaller than a telephone book and I cannot increase the size of the font.

I have tried a few things but nothing works.

It appears that it is also not compatible with adobe downloader.

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Reply By: Sigmund - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:25

Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:25
I opted for the original Kobo; liked the fact that it runs on the open standard ePub format. And there's competition among online ebook sellers of ePubs so you can often do better with shopping around.

It doesn't handle PDFs very well but there are ways of getting around that.

Bear in mind that eInk readers use glass screens and so the units need protecting.
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Reply By: Dede1 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:17

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 13:17
Hi TG
I have just purchased my 2nd kindle for my husband/son. My son is dyslexic and the kindle has the capability of reading to him while he follows the text. The reason I bought a 2nd kindle was when we were away camping my husband kept pinching my kindle.
As far as downloading books from Amazon - you are not locked in to Amazon only. You can download books from boarders, gutenberg etc. Just google ebooks. My girlfriend has just purchased a kindle after seeing mine, she had a cheaper version and was not impressed with the battery life. I have read 3 books on my kindle and am only now recharging.
You can recharge from a usb plug or buy an adapter online for usb to 240 v they cost $1.00 on ebay. Very very handy.
Yes I bought a cover on line from Hong Kong $8.00 and yes I take it down the beach to read.
With the Australian dollar doing so well, purchasing from Amazon is great. Mine arrived within 3 working days.
I hope this helps.
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Follow Up By: tg123 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 15:02

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 15:02
Thanks Dede1!!
Have you got a link for the ordering site - tried Amazon but won't let me purchase 'cos I'm not in the USA - help please!! Also would like to know the price in $AU as well as the shipping charge if you don't mind.

Cheers
TG
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Reply By: Dede1 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 15:32

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 15:32
TG
At the Amazon site page you can select that you are from Australia.
You select order now $139 version and there is a blue area that says "Important information" this has a drop down menu and you select the country you are from. Then you select add to cart.
Including postage it costs approx $169 Australian (well mine did last week).
You may have to set up an Amazon account first.

Good luck.
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Follow Up By: tg123 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 18:04

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 18:04
Thanks for the heads up!! Order has been placed including an Aust power adapter & cover (without light) - total $220 - think the $34.33 shipping charge is a bit steep but still a relatively cheap buy

Cheers
TG
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