Split rims

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 09:48
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Having just become a member I recognise there's a wealth of knowledge and experience from all other members so I'm sure someone can help me.

My current split rims are out of round enough to preclude a thorough wheel balance. Is there a business in Melbourne that machines (or otherwise) rims back to an acceptable level of roundness, or should I stick with the ad I have placed for another set of HJ60 split rims in good condition?

Thanks in advance...
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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:57

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:57
Gday
Google "eastern wheel works" They seem to have all the equipment to re roll steel wheels.



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Reply By: member - mazcan - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:05

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:05
hi
not yet done

and welcome to the world of e/o
having tried to straighten buckled items over many years as a farmer and handyman my immediate advice would be to ditch them years ago when all trucks had splits on them we tried various ways but could never get them true

it is very hard to true up any thing in the form of a wheel / drum /pulley shape once they are buckle even slightly

it will never be the same and will be a bone of contension forever and even if there is a business that could/can do it
the cost will be greater than another new set of rims imho
stick with the ad but beware of s/hand they could worse than the ones you have
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:59

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:59
having had splits all round on mine and had rusting problems my advice would be to go and buy the cheap white tubless rims, lighter, cleaner and should be able to get them around $70 - $95 each, lighter than splits and simply look better ...
It will probally cost you near on that to get the others right and i would not trust a rim at highway speeds that has been bent and then bent back again to get straight ,, metal fatigue would be the issue and may crack on you ...........
Yes i asked all the questions for and against, splits are better when out bush but are heavy, i am out bush, live here but simply wanted it to look better and have less weight, purchased 6 rims and some tubes for them (cant use the metal valves on tubless rims) pulled all tyres off and fitted tubes in only the ones that neede them and fitted tyres on new rims, took them all down to get balanced and fitted them on the car, i loved and stood by my splits but i reackon it seems better on tubless rims, certainally looks better..
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Reply By: not yet done - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:15

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:15
Thanks all for the feedback.

I have 2 reasons for wanting splits:
1. carrying tyre carcasses as spares is much lighter on the vehicle and more economical on fuel;
2. ease of changing tubes and tyres if needed.

A carcass when fitted to the bullbar also becomes ideal storage for lenghts of hose, hand-winch cable, rolls of repair wire, etc.

All that aside, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree?
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:56

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:56
hi
not yet done

i'm having trouble with your reasons and see flaws in them
1- carrying a tyre carcass thats really a seperate choice no mater what rims your running
and i have always done that with coventional rims

quote-- are much lighter on the vehicle and more economical on fuel

and so are tubless type rims compared to splits

a carcass when fitted to the bull bar can also course severe wind deflection of air flow through your radiator and on hot days course overheating and/or when towing

2- i would rather change a conventional rim and tyre than a split any day given the modern equiptmt available these days for tyre changing - imho-
and have changed many of each type over my life time
3 -the splits are always harder to balance
that's my thoughts but in the end it's every man to himself and personel preferences
cheers barry
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 13:34

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 13:34
Gday
I would still ring and find out the prices . They are in Lillydale.







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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 13:46

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 13:46
Anything on the front of a bullbar is illegal, in Qld anyway.

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Reply By: TheMightyMoose - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 17:57

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 17:57
Mate I have 4 perfectly good ones sitting in the shed that I'd be happy to get rid of cheaply. They fit an 80 so not sure if 60 was same. They are even nicely painted white (had plans of running a second set of off-road rubber but never eventuated). Pity you're in Melbourne - freight might make it too costly! If you're interested let me know an email contact and I'll send details and photos.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 19:59

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 19:59
80series splits have different offset, so don't fit 60series - they make the track too narrow.
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Reply By: Member - Paul B (WA) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 18:19

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 18:19
I'm with Mazcan. In all my time as a farmer and truckie the best thing that ever happened was the demise of split rims. Heavy dangerous horrible things they are. Get yourself a set of white spokie rims and a Tyre Plier and you can change anything anywhere. You can still carry your unmounted spare tyre (carcasse) but since it weighs hardly anything, it's the perfect thing to carry on the roof rack with other light stuff stacked in & around it.

Cheers, Paul B Kalgoorlie
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 20:04

Sunday, Feb 13, 2011 at 20:04
I used split rims for 10 years, and the best thing I ever did was to give up on them.
Tubeless tyres balance better, get fewer flat tyres (because they don't get tube problems) and get more kms because they run cooler.

There are limited choices for tubeless rims on the 60series - as others have suggested the 16x7 aftermarket rims will do the job with 235/85R16 tyres. Or you might be able to get hold of the chrome factory 16x6 rims which were available on some of the 60series (be careful as most chrome rims were splits with an inside split, but there were some available as tubeless rims).
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Follow Up By: Member - Tour Boy ( Bundy QLD) - Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:26

Monday, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:26
I would recommend the inside splits on a trailer only. If the ring comes off (and they can) then it takes out the brake lines on the car...not good.
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Reply By: not yet done - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 16:25

Tuesday, Feb 15, 2011 at 16:25
Guys and all - thanks heaps for advice and recommendations, some I've followed up on. Have decided now not to go for splits. I'll place a new ad shortly unless anyone out there has some suitable 'skinny' wheels - 4 will do.

Again - all feedback was much appreciated and carefully considered, so thanks!
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Reply By: get outmore - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 03:32

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 03:32
I have used both splitties and 1 peice rims quite bit and im pretty clear as to there uses

splitties are ideal when mated with quality tubes (bridgestone michelin) and crossply tyres 12 ply pluss for heavy duty bush work

one peice with radial tubeless are best when used for highway dirt roads tracks and sand


the whole its easier to change a splittie is only partially true because its not that often you will get a puncture you cant fix with strings with a radial and one peice- only catch is you will get ALOT more of them running radials

I cant think of any good reason you would run radials on a split rim and tubes fitted by the tyre place (crap $16 tubes made of jello you cant even stick a patch on)
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