Which type of reversing camera

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 14:32
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I've been tasked with installing a reversing camera into my mother's car. She wants one of the versions where the screen clips over the rear vision mirror.

My question is what type of camera should I be looking for, ie black & white, colour, IR or not? I vaguely remember there being threads about the best camera to buy for day & night use but searching hasn't produced any results, only 6500 threads not about cameras.

Do you learned operators have any advice?
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 15:56

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 15:56
The first thing is despite some saying they are Ok the rear vision mirror ones are crap.
Think about it. Its a mirror and what do they do They REFLECT and the camera screen generally doesn't have enough brightness to overcome this.

I have tried every kind of screen and several different cameras.

Have tried matt finish plastic over the screen in the mirror and in the end binned it.

Even with limo tinted windows it was still no good

Have a 3 1/2 in screen on the dash which is great.

Cameras I had one Polaris and one Ebay special. cost difference was about $80.

Visual difference was undetectable.

Have tried an expensive SWANN IR camera only to find the color washed out in sunlight.
Swann said yes they are optimized for night use so that went back.

So end result is car has the Ebay one in the rear Van has another Ebay one and screen is the old Polaris one.

Wireless cameras are another minefield Some work some dont.

I bought one from Brash Imports which wasnt cheap and it wouldnt work on the back of the van due to the amount of metal between camera and receiver.
Even putting the receiver in rear window of car didnt fix it.

Have a look here for This one which looks alright

Camera setup

Her choice of course but you did ask.

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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 16:21

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 16:21
Thanks for the info Graham.
Just to clarify:

- screens mounted on the rear view mirrors are a bad option due to the mounting position up high and hence catching/reflecting a lot of light which washes out the image???

- IR cameras are not good during the day as the colour gets washed out? I guess this mean a non-IR camera would be bad at night.

The link you sent me is interesting as the camera uses white LEDs for night time illumination not IR LEDs.

- Wireless cameras don't work between car and rear of caravan. How about the rear of a car and the screen and the windscreen since there's not much metal for interference?

So with your setup are you using 2 non-IR cameras both of which are hard wired?

Thanks again.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:17

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 17:17

1 Yes but they are a mirror after all.

2 Not all but the one I had did. How often does she park at night????????

3 Didnt notice that but gives you an option

4 Depends on how good it is, The type of car, Which way the winds
If you know what I mean

5 Yes

My van camera is this one It shows graduation lines for distance on the screen


They have monitors as well if you go to their home page and up to products

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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:04

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:04
Hi ben_gv3 . I have a wireless one fitted to a VS Commodore ute and it gets quite a bit of electrical interference. I have a hard wired one fitted to a Prado and van and no problems there. What Graham has indicated is pretty well spot on. Cheers, Bob

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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:12

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:12
Thanks for that Ive spent a lot time and of money to get it right.

Next project is to fit an after market camera in a new VW Polo

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Reply By: member - mazcan - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:41

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 20:41
hi bengv3
i have one that i purchased in june 2007 and it came from precison vision in nsw
it has only ever been used in my vw golf on the dash but the 5'' colour monitor mounting bracket is a real problem

it keeps running loose after a short distance and i have had to keep doing up the very undersized screw under the center of the bracket base

it is poorly designed for the weight of the monitor imho

the pal system monitor it's self has been excellent but the camera pixels are failing one by one causing a blurry patch so its not good quality and it has never been subjected to direct sunlight as its mounted inside the rear of the hatchback on the top
under side of the roof
the camera also doesn't give direct vision but makes everything look further away than what it actually is
like a convex mirror on some of the latest vehicles and it's hard to judge how far away the item is behind me when i'm reversing the entire outfit cost $459.00 and i'm not happy considering the cost

im now looking for a replacement camera and might give the one that graham has just mentioned a go for $38 i cant go wrong at that price where as pv wants 159 for the smallest one they have

but i want one that has direct vision not projected vision probably not the right terminology for that ????
i notice sidewinder- one of e/o's members

is selling the exact same system as the one i have except the camera looks different but the monitor and it's mounting bracket is the same one that has given me a lot of bother hope this is of help so beware
cheers barry
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 21:27

Wednesday, Feb 16, 2011 at 21:27
Be assured they all look further away than what they are You just have to get used to it.

Have u cleaned the camera I had that and it was condensation not degradation

That camera is about 70mm square so may not fit on the Golf but this one which I have on the Cruiser fits almost anywhere


Or this one even cheaper

or this one

Just watch the connectors are the same but you can get converters for that


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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:33

Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:33
hi graham
thanks for that info
yes i dismantled the camera hoping it was only dust or moisture but not fixed
still the same as the camera is internally mounted it has never been subjected to any real water there are no restrictions inside rear of golf for camera size so no problems in that regard
noticed you are about to install a camera in a polo vw

just be warned that you cannot tap into a vw wiring system key/fuse box or anywhere else or it will shut the vw cpu and the whole system down

i found out the hard way that's how i know

if you'd like some helpful hints on how to set up a faultless wiring system that i have personely developed and has proved it's self for any etc's that you wish to the add to the vw then message me with your ph number and i'm only to happy to help
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:54

Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:54
Thanks Barry I see on Fleabay there is a factory camera system for $499 so may buy that Its the one that opens the logo/catch in the hatch.

I intend to buy a Passat about August when I sell the van and Cruiser and will

buy a Satnav setup off Fleabay for it and change the 510 radio/screen into the Polo
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