Speeding fines while on the road!

I totally agree Roughasguts - some Government Departments are back in the Ark ages. Some have on line systems which you can check for accounts and pay on line. In WA our regos can viewed and paid totally on line. Our state electricity keep writing to me telling about their on line system - but they ignore my feedback that i cannot get the log on to work.

Motherhen

This is NOT correct. Firstly, onus to prove knowledge of suspension is on the prosecution. That is why there is a document called the 'Licence suspension notification' which is given to drivers by police to inform them of there suspension. This document is signed by the driver (although the signature is not required) to acknowledge the receipt of the form.
Secondly, a "cancelled" licence is what you have if you get disqualified and the period has ended AND your previous licence you held has not yet expired.
You can be suspended for demerrit points, fine default, exceed speed >45 and exceed speed >30 as well as mid and high range PCA.
Disqualified is what happens when a magistrate takes your licenece and cancelled is as above.
Tim

Tim
I will stand corrected if you will first tell me you are referring to NSW and secondly what your experience and qualifications are. As a retired Police Prosecutor and solicitor with 30 years in Local Courts I have stated the law as it was when I retired. I am not going to get into a legal argument in this forum.

teege

Yes I am talking about NSW, and I'm currently serving, former HWP.
Tim

Tim
Yes that was obvious.


teege

Agree 100% Stephen. The mind boggles at the thought of someone towing a caravan and speeding. If you are on an big trip why would you bother??? Plus the $$$ factor.

Tip - when we approach a new, unfamiliar town whoever is the passenger keeps a lookout for road and speed signs and if need be calls out speed changes as the signs go past. Works for us.

Cheers,

Val

Just 'not speeding' may have been easy when we had 'built up' and 'open road' limits.

Now, with 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 and 110kph sections it can be too easy to inadvertently go over the limit.

I like the suggestion for the passenger to be a lookout.

Paul

Travelling at 60 ks in a 50 k zone is not a dangerous speed it is a dangerous situation.
Why do people think it is in excess of 100 ks.

Please note that most "speeding" accidents are under 100 ks

And the RTA signs say that 8 out of 10 accidents happen on bends ( NSW )

Honky

Agreed,passenger lookout works for us too

Ups And Downs said

Now, with 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 and 110kph sections it can be too easy to inadvertently go over the limit.

Add to that list 25kph for South Australian road works & School zones

Yes-simple to say it but it IS possible to miss a sign. Its not unusual for signs to be partially obscured by bushes, or to be distracted as you pass one by watching (say) the car approaching from a sideroad.

Fisho, add to that list at truck in the left lane obscuring the sign.

Mh

forgot that one Motherhen!
Perfection is rarer even than common sense, not something most mortals need to worry about.

Hi Heather, your 'favourite mechanic' doesn't happen to be in Cannington does he? lol. That's where ours is and if we have problems he gets a call from us. We were stuck in Coral Bay with a busted radiator once and they wanted an exorbitant amount for exchange, we rang our mechanic and he organised one from down here, got it sent up the next day and it was put in and we were on our way again. Now that's service. He didn't charge us for the service either.
Cheers
Deanna

I agree with your first sentence.

Were were travelling near Strathalbyn in SA and went through a little place so small i nearly missed it.

As we werent sure where we were actually going I failed to see the 50kph sign hidden in the trees.

Also didnt see the camera hidden further in the trees and so got a $346 fine for doing 64 in a 50 zone.

Also lost 3 points.

Still havent been notified in Qld about that yet.

We had our mail sent to a friends post box and they opened and read it and if i needed anything they would scan and email documents or just give me the info to allow me to pay on line.

Easiest and cheapest way of doing it.

I suppose over a 50,000k trip we didnt do too bad and to the poster who said you shouldnt speed with a caravan on.

There is a lot of a trip done when the van is left in the van park and the car is sightseeing.

Err, that little place you went through was probably Adelaide.
MM

Ha ha was a little place between Strathalbyn and Milang

Was a half a dog town anyway..

If you have an out of state licence and get demerit points they are attached to your licence as far as I know.

Thats what it says on the QLD roads website as per here

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Licensing/Licence-demerit-points.aspx

and in NSW this is whats on the website

What if I commit a demerit point offence while driving outside of NSW?

The National Driver Licensing Scheme (NDLS), which has been adopted by all Australian jurisdictions, provides that details of certain driving offences committed by a driver while visiting in another State are to be transferred to that driver's home jurisdiction for recording on their traffic record.

The relevant driving offences are those listed in the Administrative Guideline for the NDLS published by the National Transport Commission (www.ntc.gov.au).

The NDLS also provides that the driver’s home jurisdiction is to apply the number of demerit points it would have applied, had the offence been committed in the driver’s own jurisdiction.

If you hold a NSW licence and commit certain offences in another state, the offence will be returned to NSW and the number of demerit points that the offence attracts in NSW will be applied. These demerit points may be used to suspend or refuse a licence.


So perhaps a rethink there Kimba 10

Yes if you have a truck license not a car license. My neighbour done 3 times in Melbourne by the point to point cameras in a period of 3 weeks when I was with him (he was driving at all times) (kept telling him to slow down they are savage in Melbourne), payed all the fines no loss of points. My wife done in QLD payed the fined no loss of points (camera). I got done in QLD on the Bruce highway 108k in a 100k zone,(camera) I lost points and obviously payed the fine as my license is for trucks/semis. All the cars driven at the times of the offeneces were in different states (not NSW) but registered in NSW where we live. If I had know about it before hand maybe I wouldnt have lost points if my wife was driving, and before any one carrys on about speeding Ive been done twice in 25 years including driving trucks, semis,towing and courier work, some of it luck, you betcha it was, but most of the time I try and stay within the posted limits..............Regards Steve M

This is from the RTA Web site,

What if I commit a demerit point offence while driving outside of NSW?
The National Driver Licensing Scheme (NDLS), which has been adopted by all Australian jurisdictions, provides that details of certain driving offences committed by a driver while visiting in another State are to be transferred to that driver's home jurisdiction for recording on their traffic record.

The relevant driving offences are those listed in the Administrative Guideline for the NDLS published by the National Transport Commission (www.ntc.gov.au).

The NDLS also provides that the driver’s home jurisdiction is to apply the number of demerit points it would have applied, had the offence been committed in the driver’s own jurisdiction.

If you hold a NSW licence and commit certain offences in another state, the offence will be returned to NSW and the number of demerit points that the offence attracts in NSW will be applied. These demerit points may be used to suspend or refuse a licence.

What if I hold a licence from another state or territory and commit a driving offence in NSW?
You will be required to pay the fine in NSW. Where the offence is a relevant national offence, details of the offence will be sent to your home state and included on your driving record. Your home state will determine the number of demerit points to be applied and will suspend your licence if the offence(s) causes you to exceed your demerit point limit. If you are suspended by your home state, you cannot drive in NSW. If you exceed 13 or more points in a three-year period, the RTA may withdraw your right to drive in NSW.
When driving a car your truck licence has the same penaltys applied as any other car driver for the same offence.
Cheers Dave.

Hi Dave, definately dont disagree with what you have got from the website so buggared if I know how 2 people managed to not lose any demerit points ??? As i stated above I got pinged and lost points payed the fine, but my wife and neighbour 100% didnt lose any points, wife has clean driving record going by their books ?? Buggered if I know. Unless the only thing I can think of is when you have a ""National"" Licence isnt that referring to truck license's (Australia wide) I know my licence is a different colour to my wifes, Myn has ""Heavy Vehicle Driver Licence"" accross the top then just under that in smaller print has New south Wales Australia and has a burgandy colour background, wifes has ""Driver Licence"" the under that New South Wales Australia with yellow background.............Regards Steve

As below, have you checked to see as I have never been told by QLD about mine but their website says I would get them.

I also have an HT licence with a passenger authorization as well.

The bit I posted doesn't differentiate between licenses either so I dont know and when I tried to find out what they meant about certain offences I couldnt find it.

Will get my neighbour and wife to double check their points, I would presume there wouldnt be any difference walking into the office to checking on line, but curiousty has got me now lol, Will check it out and let you know either way. Regards Steve

Hi, We wouldn't want you to get the wrong impression about our driving habits as we do drive according to the speed limit wherever possible, particularly when towing a caravan. The question was asked as we did not know what happened to demerits points etc between states in the event we were unlucky enough to incur a fine. Obviously our mail will be redirected to a family member etc so will have no excuses not to know if we were to cop any fines. We appreciate all your knowledge and comments which have been very helpful.
Hope to see you all on the road soon.
Regards Newbies

Not necessarily in the dark Tim, we are a proud people over here in the west, and we don't stick our head in the oven just because others do. Not sure where you are from, we have a great invention called a Spell Checker over here, you should try it out sometime.