Change is in the air

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GU Patrols appear to be the new Landcruiser! Travelling outback QLD at the moment, GU's appear to be out-numbering the Cruiser at probably 20-1.Our GU is pulling the 3 tonne van admirably!
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Reply By: nick - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 15:55

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 15:55
True, when we travelled for 3 months GU Patrols out numbered Cruisers for tourists BUT 99.9% of land owners drove Cruisers. Just goes to show that patrols stand up to touring duties that involves bits of off road duties but when you rely on your vehicle to stand up to off road duties every day, Cruisers are the way to go. Just look out the front of an outback towns pub.Toyotas all the way.Fact of life.
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Reply By: Member - G N (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 15:59

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 15:59
Hi
Nick nailed it in one.

There is no comparison in reality, many try to convince themselves though and i am sure a patrol is ample for many.

Not so sure about the 200 series though?????

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Reply By: Hairy (WA) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:00

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:00
Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!
Here we go.............
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:04

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:04
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:08

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:08
Are you talking about late model GU's Those ugly suckers??? Michael



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Follow Up By: Member - Dale L (QLD) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:25

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:25
hi there Toyota's the go any where thing big V8 s
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Reply By: Mick O - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 17:10

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 17:10
Had both. A well set up GU wagon (II, III & IV series) is a formidable Off Road tourer. It will go anywhere as will a well set up 80 or 100. At the time they were new, the GU did it for $20K less than the Toyotas. That's a lot of $$$ to spend on bits and pieces.

The 79 diesel V8 is awsome but a different beast all together. It isn't as comfortable but with a bit of thought and some upgrades here and there, there aint anywhere it won't go.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:08

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:08
Betcha I can take a Suki places neither a Patrol nor a cruiser will go !!! Can not beat the light weight of a Suki !

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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:14

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:14
Hi Ian,

That maybe so, however how much fuel can you carry in a Suki?

I would think you would run out of fuel before you could even reach some of these places that neither a Patrol or a cruiser will get to.....

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PS - I am in no way endorsing a Patrol as a reliable outback vehicle, just responding to your comment.




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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:28

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:28
How do you think my Isuzu MU would go then?
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Follow Up By: equinox - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 21:25

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 21:25
Not sure Bruce, I've driven a Zook on most of the tracks in the Grampians however not an MU. I guess if you get there (somewhere far away) you will still have to eat and drink :) What's your experience on longer trips?

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Follow Up By: Ianw - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 21:37

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 21:37
The fuel tank capacity of a Suki depends on how many and how big rocks you have bounced/slid over. Some tanks with big dents only hold 15 to 20 litres !!

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Follow Up By: Member - Boeing (PER) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 23:45

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 23:45
Hey Mick, "some upgrades here and there" Holy Hell you just about re built it. LOL

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Reply By: Member - G N (VIC) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 22:46

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 22:46
HQ holden ute i have taken a few places where thise with NO idea were bogged in 4WD.
if no idea does not matter what you have!

Oh well sounds like Nissan have it, so 3 cheers.

I would not have one though, ever, sorry,

seen mates who had cruisers for years, got sucked in and bought a nissan, didnt have it long and wil NEVER have another!




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Reply By: Baz&Pud (Tassie) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 22:56

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 22:56
It gives me the tom tits how some people, on this forum , think there is a difference between Patrols and Toyota's, the sooner they come to there senses and realise that the only vehicle is a TOYOTA (yes, i'm shouting) the better off they will beeee !!! LOL (loud again).
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 23:00

Sunday, Feb 27, 2011 at 23:00
Have noticed the slow but steady transition myself over the last 20 years. With the gap closing between several brands on features, quality & parts availability, many people seem no longer willing to pay the premium for the Toyota badge. Government & industry too have been switching from what was Toyota's core 80 & 100 series base models to a variety of twin cab utes. That substandard 76 wagon was their undoing from my observations. The local Toyota dealer would have sold five to ten 100 series a month with Parks Vic a major buyer but when they brought out the 76 it took them 2 months to sell the 1st one & I haven't seen another on their lot since.
My local 4x4 club too has seen the the same change from the 1980's when 60% of all cars were Toyota's to today where it would be lucky to be 20%. While the GU has certainly added to that swing I doubt it's anywhere near 20 to 1 as you are suggesting.
Cheers Craig.................
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Reply By: Leroy - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 15:59

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 15:59
The GU is great bang for buck literally. Wait until you have to replace your 3.0l engine as I'm looking at and you'll love your GU ever so much more....

Then there is the warranty issues you have to deal with. Nissan just don't want to honour the warranty unless you fight and argue.

I'll never buy another Nissan again. Looking to buy a new dual cab ute and I'm sure I'll have a better run than this POS '04 Patrol that's had a gearbox fail at 12k and stuffed engine at 93k and a cracked rear door at 65k.

And if buying one second had.......you're just rolling the dice......when will it blow....nobody knows.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 16:30

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 16:30
I resisted answering for nearly 73 seconds Not So Grey.

Basically the sales figures are still heavily in Toyo's favour but what you have noticed is the distribution pattern.

Its clear that for the more difficult long haul duties Nissan has taken over from
your 80 series etc as the vehicle of choice.

I think their are good reasons for that.

Its a relatively low cost vehicle with a higher percentage of more easily fixable bits.

The petrols version have basically no generic faults and the 3lt diesels have more or less got through their engine issues.

They consistently win in the value for money stakes.

They still retain probably the most versatile chassis along with
the classic long travel all coil round suspension , which is seriously
hard to beat.

Toyota's have divided their focus and branched off in two directions
the bigger more comfortable luxury car which consumers tend to keep around town and of course the agricultural leaf springs products more suited to short haulfarm type stuff if you value your back.

I think that TV add with the Prado's mum driving thru the urban jungle probably summed up the on the ground situation and began the creation of an unjustified mind set.
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:11

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:11
The iron ore miners in WA won’t use them – they stick to Toyotas.
They are more concerned with durability and dependability than price.
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Reply By: Tonyfish#58 - Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:36

Monday, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:36
They both cost to much!!!!!

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