Permits for Western Australia Feedback

Its expensive to live at home? since i have not gone through these areas my question should have been the cost of permits, which you in part answered.
Cheers.

There is a lot about permits and how to obtain them in the Permits section (link from your initial thread) here on ExplorOz. For normal travel on the main routes, no permits are needed. For roads such as the Great Central Road and the Gary Junction Road and a number of track in this region, transit permits are needed. Most can be obtained on line in one working day. Some, such as Gary Junction Road, require several weeks. To go into more out of the way places special purpose applications may be needed, which can take quite some time and permission may not be granted. The only places you have to pay that i can think of at the moment are:

Mereenie Loop in NT where a very small fee (something like $3.30) is charged, and this covers the cost of a brochure.

On arrival at Kalumburu in the northern Kimberley, a permit costing $40 per vehicle must be obtained from the Kalumburu Aboriginal Corporation office. The office may not be open during the lunch hour or outside of office hours of 8.30 am to 4.30 pm weekdays.

The most expensive is to visit Surveyor General’s Corner, with a per car fee of $100 plus $20 per person, which includes the cost of a local guide.

Considering all the costs of transport to get to these places, the permit does very little to harm the budget.

Mh

Having just received that EO Newsletter i note updates to the permits section here were flagged. Prices quoted above are now out of date, as is process for getting permit to visit Kalumburu.

Mh

Hi get outmore

Have you ever needed to pay to travel through private property - be it freehold or leasehold?

You do not need permission to travel on a public road through stations or other rural properties. Private roads are another matter.

Roadside camping when travelling through stations is another controversial area, and is currently being discussed (with varying viewpoints) on camping on private property

Are you still working in the Nullagine area?

Motherhen

paying isnt the issue
- its the lack of access

I was used to the bush of the goldfields but went for a trip to the "remote areas"

and all and every single road and track had was big POQ signs


Havnt worked up at Nullagine for a few years

did a stint at telfer then near yalgoo and currently in the East Kimberly

If it's private property it is up to the propriety to deny or allow access to who he chooses. Unfortunately like so many other areas and free camps, a few irresponsible spoil it for the vast majority.

My grandson may take a mining job between Newman and Nulling (probably where they are going to have pumps running for a couple of months before they can get back to business O:).

Cheers

Mh

Private property is like your farm

paid for exclusive rights and fenced off

lease hold pastoral isnt paid for but leased for a pittance for non exclusive rights to graze animals

It makes my blood boil when i hear of Pastoaralists wanting to use their grazing lease rights for other purposes because they cant make money from its paid for purpose

Do you know how much those stations change hands for? I can't quote recent figures, but they used to sell at near freehold prices. Regardless, leased property is rented property. If you are in a rented house; say a state housing house, does that give me the right to walk through it without seeking your permission? Same thing; you have rights as a tenant or property lessee.

Mh

If you have a Miners Right and intend to "Fossick" you may enter a Pastoral property if you alert the owner.

"Fossick" is a very broad term, you can fossick for gold, gems, wildflowers, old tins etc.

I've had my lifetime Miners Right for about 10 years now, never had to use it yet though. Not sure where all the "POQ" signs are Davoe, I haven't seen that many. I think the majority of Station owners wouldn't mind if you ask them.

Also, if you would believe some of the permit propaganda that's coming from the ANFWDC website then the proportion of restricted Pastoral leases compared to restricted Aboriginal land pales into insignificance.

Cheers
Alan

yes i kinow how much they change hands for but that has nothing to do with the value of the lease which is paid

a rental house is quite a bit duifferent as it gives you exclusive use of the property

a lease hold gives you exclusive grazing rights other leases can be held in conjunction with a pastoral lease as well as other activities

OK get outmore, I'll bite again (until the Mods get us for off topic chatter O:). Are you referring to mining companies? We have on several occasions had freehold property pegged for mining, and there was nothing we could do about it. Thanks goodness no mining eventuated, as to lose land to mining would have destroyed our farming enterprise. I still see leased land and leased houses as being similar in rights of entry.

Lease amount has a lot to do with price paid; the fact that lease is to be paid is considered in the "value" of the property. Then there is Perpetual Lease land title - another scenario again.

Mh