Rubbish Bags on Rear Wheel Carriers
Submitted: Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:43
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ExplorOz - David & Michelle
Could anyone that has these, please post a picture and give details of where you got yours? We are hoping to reinvestigate making ExplorOz rear wheel rubbish bags so would like to see the various ones that are currently in use. Of course any
feedback, comments, suggestions also welcome.
Adele will be coordinating this research so any specific enquiries you can address to her.
Thanks, Michelle
Reply By: Rod W - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:46
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:46
Got
mine from Michelle's Sacks when they had a
shop in Malaga WA (sorry no photo)
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:05
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:05
I don't have one of
these, but they look good.
The big issue is that a lot of them are just too small. These guys make various sizes.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:16
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:16
Contact Klaus at In Front Camping here in
Melbourne.
He may be able to help, makes good range of product and very good quality.
Infront Camping
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Follow Up By: Member - Brenton H (SA) - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:09
Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:09
I second that.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 14:58
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 14:58
Mick O has the super-deluxe triple overhead camshaft model, and what's more, he has had it named after him. It came from Infront, and there is already a link to it in this thread.
Luv ya work, Mick.
Jack
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 19:58
Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 19:58
I just thank god he didn't name the wind shield for the Cobb cooker afer me. Very happy with the CobBra (or Cobb Brassiere) thanks.
:-) Mick
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Reply By: Member - Michael and Chris (QL - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:44
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:44
Dam good idea that EO make their own. I have a Michelles Sacs one and the thing only lasted one trip. The webbing came apart and the zipper broke. They replaced it with a new one but at this stage it is still in the box as I don't have a lot of faith in it. If you do decide you will make one, make it heavy duty and of a reasonable size and it should sell. Besides when I have the rubbish bag on it covers my EO wheel cover. Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:50
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 21:50
Jeez I've had my Michelles Sacs for about 10 years. It would be one of their first models. It was just a flap over and closed with some clip together straps. It usually gets loaded up with a couple of cartons of empty glass stubbies and other rubbish... hasn't failed me yet.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:47
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:47
AS per a post here a couple of years ago -
mine was homemade (thanks again dear) to fufill some specific requirements not available in commercial models.
These included a support section across the rear wheel which reduced stress levels and kept the bag with a half reasonable shape.
It holds 2 (empty) jerry cans side by side.
It allows for the shovel to be held and removed without take of the whoile bag - the bag is supported at the top and can swing out at the bottom - the bottom is held by large velcro pathces to prevent unwanted swingout.
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Reply By: Member - Darren & Janella (WA) - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:53
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:53
The one on the right is a Michelle Sacs (MSA Products)
The one on the left is the one a mate's Brother made up for me from my rough design, it's a little smaller thean the MSA one, but suits our needs.
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Reply By: Mick O - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 19:12
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 19:12
These are rear wheel bags I had custom made by Klaus at Infront Camping gear. He has based his "Maxi" range of bags on these prototypes. I wanted a bag that could support the weight of a lot of rubbish from my long haul trips. The bag comes in two sizes, one almost twice the size of the other. The prototype has thick webbing all the way around the bags and is sown onto the fabric meaning the actual straps form part of, and therefore support the bag. It's not a situation where the straps are attached to the canvas for only a few inches.
These are very robust and took Klaus and I a couple of years to perfect, modify and then try and destroy. They have proved incredibly strong although I do recommend cutting a piece of thick ply almost the same size as the base of the bag. Edge it with Gaffer tape or proper edging to prevent wearing. This maintains a nice solid base for the contents of the bag and prevents the bottom from drooping.
Infront Camping Gear Rubbish Bags
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:15
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:15
THanks Mick - it they survive what you give em then that should be the kind of thing we'd put our logo on.
Adele will start conversations with Klaus soon i'm sure.
Thanks for the effort in specifically digging up your photos to put here for me.
Michelle
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:20
Thursday, Mar 17, 2011 at 20:20
Thanks everyone for your responses. As expected, you're quick, and informative. We'lll obviously let you know what we come up with.
Don't hold your breath though, these things can take some time to coordinate and of course we order in the multiple hundreds.
Michelle
(ps, if you have photos to share of models not mentioned here, please continue to feel welcome to post them).
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 00:25
Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 00:25
one question ...... not that i care from my end as i would use them anyway but as a seller would there be any legal issues with it in any form, insurance issues maybe..... with over hang or may need the attaching system to be "rated" and loading capicity printed on em ........
just a thought,
Cheers and good luck with them
Joe
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Reply By: you eat the bear - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:24
Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:24
Hi
Min is all packed away but I got it from
Southern Cross in Bayswater Vic.
It is a very heavy duty black vinyl with velcro inside to hold the flap down when travelling.
Very light and takes up little room to store when not in use.
Being vinyl it VERY easy to wash down the dust and mud etc.
I've had
mine for about 3 years now and now real problems except a neigbour's dog decied to have a good look inside one night after a long weekend away and pulled all the stitching down both sides out! No damage to the material though.
Picture of one here
http://www.southerncrosscanvas.com.au/accessories/4wd-accessories/
Cost was about $100 from memory RRP.
No affiliation etc
Stephen
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:32
Friday, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:32
Thanks Stephen,
I like that one actually.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Adele - Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:16
Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:16
Hi Stephen,
This is one we're seriously considering, just wanted to
check with you, how does the bag attach to the Wheel Cover, is it sewed in place, or can you remove/tip it?
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Follow Up By: you eat the bear - Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:37
Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:37
Hi Adele.
The back of the bag has a hood sewn onto it which goes over the spare wheel.
In addition to that there are 3 nylon loops sewn on - one at the back of the hood and one at each side of the bag itself.
I use 2 occy straps to hold it on but you could also tie it on with rope if you wished.
It takes about a minute to put it on and about 10 seconds to get off.
I have just spoken to
Southern Cross Canvas but they dont have any drawings that I can send you.
They did confirm RRP is $95 at the moment but that may change upwards in the near future.
I can try and send you a photo of
mine when I get
home if you like.
Let me know if you need anything done this end - I live about 10 minutes from there.
Steve
PS Yes, I will be joining as a member!!
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Adele - Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 17:44
Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 17:44
Thanks very much for your help Steve,
I think that gives us a much better understanding of how it works, if you wouldn't mind a sending us a picture that would be fantastic, especially of the product off the vehicle. I've got most of the information (pricing etc) that I need from
Southern Cross, but any additional images would be great.
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Reply By: *Rusty* - Saturday, Mar 19, 2011 at 00:30
Saturday, Mar 19, 2011 at 00:30
We have a MSA bag on one of the spares, and an infront canvas one on the spare on our camper. The straps on the msa ones are good, but the infront bag straps are piddley and i personally dont think sufficent for long term straps. We put our ground mat, shower tent and crab pots in the infront one that hangs on our spare on the camper. The one on the car usually have rubbish bags or wet towels etc.
We bought a infront bag in the maxi size but sat too low cause it was too deep. The straps on that was good. It also came with a drain hole.
The smaller one we had to re-buy but doesnt have the drain hole.
I think the drain hole with the flap over the underneath is an excellent idea.
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:49
Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:49
Rusty,
try putting the piece of ply in the bottom of the large bag as per my description above. That keeps the bottom nice and flat. Also make sure you draw in the front straps fully and that should hold it up square.
Cheers Mick
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Reply By: Millsy - The Uteshed(WA) - Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 19:45
Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 19:45
I've picked up a MSA bag and will be using it on our 3 week trip to the Red center and down through SA and back
home to
perth.
If you need a bag to look over when we get back let me know and I'll drop it over to you to have a look at if need be.
Cheers
Millsy
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:11
Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:11
Here's a link to Bushranger's version:
Wheelie Bin
But, what pressure !!!
If I want to put one of these on my spare wheel I will have to get it out from underneath and install a rear wheel carrier.
And if I do that I will put in a long range tank.
This bag is looking really expensive !!
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:52
Monday, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:52
Hilarious!!!!
Also, a very good looking product, thanks mate ;-) we will look into that coy also.
Michelle
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 18:13
Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 18:13
Here is a
pic of a rear wheel cover come bin bag. When not in use it zips closed and looks like a normal wheel cover. But when opened, it unzips and has a mesh surround that allows the central area to pop out around 200mm. It is great for storing wet gear (incl hoses) or a couple of bags of rubbish. Its not the biggest bin around, but it is has turned out to be very practical and suprsingly bigger than it looks. It comes standard on all AORC campers.
Cheers
Captain
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