Which Winch??

Submitted: Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:05
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Hi Guys,

Looking at spending a bit on a winch, Which Winch is regarded as being the best. Im only a weekend battla for around Victoria.

Is Hydraulic or Electric better? Warn or TJM OX?

I have been quoted $2100 +$200 for hoses, fitted at TJM.
Are there any budget alternatives?

Any advise would be great.
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Reply By: Tony - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:24

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:24
I would go with eletcric, proberly 9500lb.

For any reason you stall your motor, and cannot re-start you can still winch on the battery and it may just be enough to get you out. With another vehicle you can use their battery and continue winching when yours goes flat. As long as one vehicle is running, the other can be re-started.

If you have dual battries you can use the winch for a short time without starting the vehicle, handy when pulling a steer up into a tree to skin etc.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 13:10

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 13:10
Is that a cleanskin, Tony?Willem

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Follow Up By: Tony - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 15:38

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 15:38
Shhhhhhh: NOw Willem would I do that.

Nah mate my own. I keep a few vealers to one side for killers.
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Reply By: Darryn - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:52

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:52
Hero if your truck can take a PTO winch I would fit one. Most of the winch recoverys I have been involved with in the Vic High Country have resulted in almost stuffed Warn winches as the amount of work is too much for them unless you want to spend 2 days getting out(waiting for the winch to cool etc). As for winching without the motor running you will have flat batteries in 15 minutes. Victoria Police/Victoria SES try as hard as they can to fit Thomas PTO winches wherever they can and have had arguments with Toyota over it.

This is my opinon only and I await the replies with interest.

Darryn
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 13:18

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 13:18
I paid $1290 for my Brawn 9500lb winch. It works well. Have had three Warn winches before and they were good as well. Also had two Toyota PTO winches and although they are very strong winches and superior over electric winches I did not like them as they are difficult to operate if you are on your own.
Cheers,Willem

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 16:20

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 16:20
Buy second hand, I did, got my 10,000lb warn used half dozen times for $1200. I could sell it tomorrow for $1200 too I reckon.

As Willem said, look at Colin from Brawns winches, they are VERY good, and cheap. Honestly, had mine 9-12 mths, used it first day out and 2 others, then my stupidity, should have pulled apart and serviced it a few times. They cant just sit there for years unused on the front.. Water gets in and they go fubar.

Dont buy new!

Hydro needs the engine running,so if in water or something like that, it may as well be a used condom.
PTO, also needs engine running so if in water or something like that, it may as well be a used condom.
Elect, using lots kills the battery, so need at least 2.
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Reply By: Brian - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 16:48

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 16:48
I have had several Warn electric wincheson several vehicles over the past 20 years and this time I put the TJM OX hydraulic winch on my F250. The cable retrieval rate on the OX is much slower than the electrics, but it does have a fast no load retrieve. I found that it takes a little while to get used to how to position the controls when it is in use, otherwise they both work very good. If you are only fitting the winch for the ocassional time that you might need it then I would go for the electric as anyone can transfer it to another vehicle. With the OX it is a much bigger job to fit and swap to another vehicle.
Brian
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 17:21

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 17:21
You can by an X9 Superwinch for about 1300bucks and fit it yourself (9000lb)...It got rated with 3 stars in a recent test in 4x4 mag which was the same as the Warn...._____________________________________________

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 13:15

Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 13:15
Remember about believing everything in magazines???
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 22:05

Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 22:05
Ok.. I see your point but what i spose i was doing was letting the magazine report speak for me.... I have used both and think that the warn is a better winch because of its gearing.... It seems to tow in faster... But a slower recovery is ok for me also....._____________________________________________

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Reply By: Dave from Fraser Coast Four Wheel Drive Club - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 19:56

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 19:56
I've got an OX Hydraulic and have been very, very happy with it.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 20:54

Friday, Nov 14, 2003 at 20:54
Premier 9000lb kicks on, god price well made and fitted by brown davies

good jobLaterally Literal
Seriously Cerebral
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Follow Up By: Wazza (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:56

Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:56
Bonz,

Got your cable re-swaged yet?Cheers,
Wazza
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:32

Saturday, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:32
Not yet Waz, Its on the list of wants for early next yearLaterally Literal
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Reply By: Steve P - Monday, Nov 17, 2003 at 23:00

Monday, Nov 17, 2003 at 23:00
I wanted a warn 9500 but it would not fit an ARB bar on the LC100, so I upgraded to the 10,000, and was very glad to have done so have recently pushed it to the limit.

I love the 38 meter 9.5 line (versus 30 metre at 8.0) very useful when anchor points are far away and you've run out of extension straps

The bigger drum (approx 50%) means you have a much stronger force through the layers (less drop off with each layer), especially when you consider the first layer starts half full!

Yes you can use a snatch to increase force times 2 but you loose line length.

Now fitting a second battery to support the massive current draw, and thinking a 12000 might have been a better choice
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