No please and No thanks

Not your imagination Baz, and the observation has been made a few times here before. Sometimes the question is so obscure or vague - with no please or question mark to be sure if they are asking a question or making a statement.

When we can spend a considerable amount of time formulating a reply and gathering the information, it is very disappointing not to get a response or a thank you. Knowing that what has been said has been seen by them, has or hasn't helped them, or if it has even asking further questions, can make it worthwhile to answer on the forum. Often these vague questions are from non-paid members, and they may well be putting the same question on a number of forums as they find them and forget to return.

Sometimes people ask about where to camp in xxx area and get given lots of suggestions to consider. Generally we never know if they found these useful or used any of them as they don't come back and tell us more.

Best ever was someone here asked about a free overnight stop in a certain area. We were away travelling at the time and without access to my notes i recalled we had found a gravel pit in a nice bush setting in the area some years before. I tried to describe where i remembered it being. Aside from the communication at the time, I was delighted some weeks later after that member's trip to get a message saying thanks they had found it and stayed, and he gave the GPS coordinates for it. Now is is good feedback.

Motherhen

Hi Baz&Pud
Yes I have,also when you go out of the way to help someone and you ask them to let you know what they found out because you are interested in the subject too....... They don't!

I get this at work all day, so I guess I'm used to it!
Take care,safe travels.
Bye for now, Ma.

Hi.Baz &Pud

Wouln't go as far as saying that no one says thanks
Every time iv'e asked for a problem to be sorted have always said thanks and been gratefull for help

also noted some members say thanks in anticipation

cheers Ken


Mi Misiss Mi Mad n Me (will get a photo soon]

Been covered quite a few times before Baz. I think that's just the way it is these days. Many do say thanks, some don't. Would be interesting to know the demographics of those who do and those who don't. I'd suggest that the majority who do acknowledge can remember a time before the impersonal and anonymous world of the net and those who don't may not have known a time when you couldn't Google a query or message someone instantly. It seems that it is fairly typical in most aspects of society these days. Perhaps I'm becoming blasé but It doesn't worry me that much to be honest. You can only put it out there and be happy in the knowledge that perhaps you've provided something worthwhile.

Cheers Mick



Previous recent posts on the subject;

Forum Etiquette

Netiquette

G'Day Baz & Pud.
This observation was covered quite extensively in this thread:
Forum Ettiquette

You're right...and judging by the responses I got back then 2100+ , you're not an orphan in thinking this either.

Fab.

When I was a member on here I sent some stuff away to another member, even went out of my way to post it off through Aussi post obviously costing me for postage (which wasnt cheap due to the weight but didnt bother me) water pump, bearings etc and agreed on a price prior and he would send me money order, well guess what still waiting for the money order !!!! No longer a member on here unless hes using a different name ?? Shame on you, was all new parts that I had as spares when going away but sold the vehicle.........

Baz, that's exactly what I was getting at when I replied to This Thread. just the other day.

It get's asked every few weeks, and we never get to hear how they went or what advice they followed, or if they have any of their own after their experience.

Maybe we'll get a response to this one when they get there??????

Fred.

Gday Baz
I like the people that write without full stops and commers and no capital letters.


There you go , now you all know what upsets me . And spell check, how hard can it all be?

Yes , sometimes these days the whole please and thankyou has all gone out the window. I remember some time back we had our own business which sold takeaway food as well.
In the end, the lack of manners from kids and even adults was horrific, so my wife put a sign up behind the counter which read NO MANNERS,NO FOOD.
It was amazing to see the difference when people were ordering food after that. One bloke used to come in and go,giz five bucks worth of chips, my wife would reply giz a please and thanks, and ya might get em.!!
And just last xmas, one of our guys at work's mother died right on xmas. We all put our hands in our pockets and gave $20 each to cover some of his funeral expenses for her, and guess what..... not one word of thanks.!! Absolutely disgusting in my books.



Unc

I look at a few different forums and it does seem to be worse on Exploroz.

My view is that this could be caused by a few factors;

The 'unconventional' forum flow/categorisation compared to other platforms...You can't go to the 'Offroad Navigation' section of the site and see all the top/stickied posts which would often answer a question that is asked repeatedly.

It can be hard to get to know people on Exploroz as you can't see their history of posts...I wouldn't say this is a big factor, but it irks me.

The high visibility of Exploroz in google results - i.e. there would be a large number of people jumping on the site, ask a quick question, and not come back. There would also be a large number of idiots/trolls.

and more generally, the internet is an 'instant' medium... perhaps some people are losing common respect/manners...

I don't think so, it's just that they're a lot more visible on the internet...

Cheers,

Pete

Very rarely I ask for any info, but any input I have on this forum is finished with Cheers.

Cheers

Hi Baz,
Maybe us lot grew up in a time when we use to get our backsides kick for not using manners. I don't, maybe it's a generational thing.
Just like when you ask someone something and they don't hear you for what ever reason, instead of asking you to repeat it, all you get is a grunt or a What?

I have mentioned this before, some reply to every post that offers them a suggestion or answer to their question or query. Which is brilliant, it is what a forum is about.Exchanging ideas.
Not throwing a question out there and leaving it at that.

So Please forgive my ramblings and thank you for your time.

PS, Just for you Daza. ;)

I spent around 3 or 4 hours writing a 3 day itinerary for some folks driving out to visit the red centre and who wanted to try and see everything. It was obviously time consuming and the itinerary that I wrote was very in-depth.

Not even a reply email to say thanks for that, it was a huge amount of writing.



I recently spent a very long time writing a reply for someone else coming out to the red centre who wanted to buy vacuum packed meat out here, and I gave them ALL the information on what companies to contact in Alice Springs to get the meat, and to get it freighted out to Yulara from Alice Springs (OR to contact me as I had offered to help), I had to do research, get contact details, put together the post etc...
Not even a single reply from the original poster after 8 or 9 days. Pathetic. Makes me wonder if it's worth even trying (in other words is there any point in my having just renewed my membership when other members can't even be arsed to reply to a very in-depth answer to a question THEY asked...?)



Oh well, it seems to be where the entire world is at these days - after all, if you ever expect customer service out of most businesses in Alice Springs you'll soon find out!

While talking of manners i cant believe the number of... Pigs these days that dont cover their mouths when coughing or sneezing.

On a bus and plane trip recently i'd say the majority of people that did cough or sneeze didnt even attempt to cover their mouths!

It really annoys me and is disgusting.

On a previous cruise a few years ago it was the same, but trapped in a cruise ship for 12 days was even worse, toward the end of the trip i'd say 20% of people on board had some sort of flu. It was like a big incubator!

Im actually considering wearing a dust mask on long trips when trapped with other people.

Anyway, rant over, maybe its just me!

Cheers
Wayne

The younger generation see things differently to us.

We've done our best to teach our kids manners but they just don't get it.

I think they're used to the disposable society we live in.

Disposable feelings, disposable english and no consideration for others.

Still love the forum and helping others though.

Regards

This site is a bit behind the times,as far as forums go these days. Interesting threads just disappear and there is very little info about real camping. You know,in a tent.

Have received so much from this forum, as others have!!!. New to caravaning and forums, so far we love our new pop top expanda, a lot due to experience gained the easy way, via this forum members, Many Thanks.
Len M (lizzard) Hope I have posted/replied in the correct method

Hello everyone,
I am a very new member to this site and i for one am very thankful for the wonderful advise that i have received from other members on this site. As for the generational thing, well being one of perhaps the younger generation in question i think its safe to say we don't all fall under the same generalisation, but i do agree common courtesy is anything but common, and i definately think it stems from how you were bought up rather than the fact you are on the internet.
One issue i have found is that the forum page does not shuffle threads back to the top if they are added to like many other car sites i am a member of do. This keeps relevant threads at the top and the dead ones shuffle down the tail. I guess for me as a new member, if i am looking for something i was reading 3 weeks ago i have to scroll down pages trying to find the relevant one, and i guess i am asking what are the chances the person i am responding to does the same? If it returned to the top, the helpful member would have alot more chance of seeing it... Of course i might have this system all wrong as i am new.
But please don't hold back valuable information because someone does not thankyou, because i am sure some of the other people that read the thread will get some valuable information on the back of your reply and be very thankful you did.

Cheers (<--- substitute thanks)

Mauler

Another thing i notice is a guy might write a lengthy reply and 6 threads down another guy will write basically the same thing but less informative and he gets the thanks and the other is left high and dry...Go figure.

Sorry Guys

I am Guilty....(thread 85308).....yes it is something we should remember

Please Thanks
Brian
Have great week




I mean it : -)
Thanks for being their

It would be nice to have people post a thread that is easy to understand, is polite, has good grammar and correct spelling. But itaintgonnahappen. The schools do not teach english. TV and the internet is overloaded with foul and bad english and texting is killing what is left.

So! Is it any wonder that polite requests and pleasant acknowledgements are disappearing. It certainly does not surprise me.

Cest la vie.

Phil

Gday
I was just reading this post for the forth time .

Gee I hope I never make another mistake.

The old saying comes up " people who live in grass houses should not stow thrones "

I think we all have missed a thanks or please somewhere and a full stop and comma , even a capital letter. Enough Murray , get back in your box and behave.

Don't you think that answers to rhetorical statements also deserve a thanks?

So if I read this thread correctly it's the younger generation and the non paying members at fault again...
I will not be renewing my membership here.

Thanks.