Towbar distributors around kingaroy or Maryborough

Submitted: Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 06:46
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Good morning everyone

Currently I have a towbar and tongue setup on the troopy that does not quite let the caravan sit level when towing.

I already have a the longest tongue that my auto bloke in scone could supply.

It would have been fine except the troopy has a 2" lift and there lies the problem.

The caravan has a back door and dropping the front 2" would give us the height we need at the back.

I have had a look on the net but can't find what I am looking for. Does anyone know of a towbar place around the Marybourgh of Kingaroy area that may be able to help?
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Reply By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:39

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:39
Hi Boo Boo,

Local towbar firms seem hard to find these days. I think towbars are all centrally manufactured and locally distributed now. Small manufacturers are disappearing.

Modification of the existing may be the way to go and there are many engineering works in the Maryborough & Kingaroy regions who may be able to help.

A couple of thoughts come to mind:
1) Making the tongue longer increases the "turning moment" and may place excessive strain on the towbar.
2) If the coupling is bolted and not welded to the 'A' frame, consider raising the coupling above the frame with a packing piece and longer high tensile bolts. An engineering shop could easily supply a custom packing piece. I did this with my old camper to level it.

Happy travels.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:05

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:05
Al

Your not just a pretty face. LOl

There is an engineering firm just up the road from where I am staying in Murgon.

I'll go and have a chat with them. It may be the way to go as it is bolted on.

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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:32

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:32
Boo Boo, if you want a good result it may be best to leave my facade out of the equation! LOL
Guess you noticed I changed my forum name but can't do much about the face. However, Roz seems to still appreciate it!

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 13:31

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 13:31
Yep I thought it was Allan/Alllan, I'll let you know what happens this afternoon after I've seen the engineers.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 16:50

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 16:50
Well that was a waste of time.

The engineering shop did not want to know about it. They were worried that if they did the job and something went wrong in three yrs it would come back on them.

So,,, I rang the towbar place in Kingaroy. After explaining the situation he said I would only get a standard tongue if I bought a towbar.

He then suggested that I go to an engineering place and get them to make me a tongue.
Yerr right!

I might have a look at another engineering place on our travels or go to supercheap and see what they have.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:41

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:41
Hi Boo Boo,

Many exhaust fitter these days do the tow bar thing also so perhaps look for one of those blokes or talk to one of the local service station guys as local knowledge is invaluable.

Good luck and happy traveling.

Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:51

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:51
Bruce there is an exhaust place in Kingroy who do towbars, but the drop I want may not be possible. As mentioned above the one I have at the moment has a 210mm bentl lenght and they may not be able to make them any longer, but I hope I'm wrong.

My wife of many, many years suggested that if I got the troopy raised 50mm I should be able to get the caravan raised as well.

I tried to explain that if it could be done it would be a lot dearer than any other way of fixing the problem. I'm not making much headway with that one. LOL

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Reply By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 20:37

Monday, Apr 11, 2011 at 20:37
Hi Boo Boo,

Not sure if this is what you need, but I replied to an enquiry some time ago about adjustable tow bar tongues.

If you have a look at thread 70653, 1/2 way down the page are pics of my adjustable tongue. Since that post, I have found out it is a Hayman Reece product. It has the standard 2' square tube insert, you will see the rest.

Hope this helps, Cheers, Dave

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:49

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 06:49
Dave

Would you believe I found that one last night by googling towbar height.

I have sent them an email and will await their reply.

Thanks for your help, appreciated.

Those fancy aluminium ones in that thread look good, I was almost tempted to find out what they cost to buy and get shipped over.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:44

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:44
Dave the adjustable tongue is the longest HR make so it looks like the axle gets moved to give me some height on the van.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:14

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:14
Hi Boo Boo,

Your wife is on the money there Boo Boo. If you place the van springs on top of the axle instead of underslung as they mostly are then you will gain more than 50mm. The distance gained will be the depth of the spring and the depth of the axle. You just need a keeper plate, same as fitted to the underside of the axle at the moment, welded to the top side of the axle.
This is not a difficult job but you do not just rotate the axle unless you remove the backing plates and then refit the backing plates once the axle has been rotated otherwise everthing is upside down with regard to brakes.

This is frequently done where there is insufficient ground clearance on caravans.
The forces remain the same virtually but the height is increased.

I have been thinking of doing it to my van.

If you were close to Port Macquarie NSW I would help you do it but you are a little far north for me up there in QLD.

I live on a farm and have an extensive workshop so if you decide to do that you are more than welcome but I suppose you are heading north instead of south.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:26

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:26
Actually Bruce we are heading back to Scone on good
friday, but inland. Thanks for the offer though.

I hate eating humble pie. I told my wife it would be too expensive and not a good idea but a bloke in Kingaroy pointed me towards another bloke that can do the job.

So I'm taking it down to him this afternoon.

Before I do I am going to have a good look under the van and see if I can see any problems. You know how it goes,,, by fixing one problem you can sometimes create another.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 13:43

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 13:43
Bruce

As I understand it if I just put the axle under the springs all that really needs to be do is weld at the top where the spring meets the axle and tighten the U bolts or have I missed something?

I'm not sure I understand the bit about the backing plates etc.

When I go back to the caravan bloke I just want to make sure he knows what he is doing.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:20

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:20
Hi Boo Boo,

Re Backing plates... There is a keeper plate welded to the underside of the axle which has a hole in the middle to allow the centre bolt in the spring to be housed so that the axle won't be "balancing" on top of this bolt. The plate is in effect a spacer around the centre bolt and allows the axle to sit flat against the spring.

You could rotate the axle so that the axle sits upside down from its present orientation. This puts the backing plates upside down and causes all sorts of issues so you have to remove the backing plates before you rotate and orientate them the right way as the last job before putting the wheels back on. Issues are park brake cable length, electric cable length if fitted with electric brakes and general brake design not accommodating upside down fitting.

It is better to remove the existing keeper plate and make a new one or reposition the existing one on top of the axle.

Both ways work if done properly and as you have a guy on to it now all should be well.
As you can see the explanation was a little long for the original reply here. I tend not to give the long explanation in the first instance in order not to boor people who may already be aware of the consequences.

Sorry about putting you in the gun there mate but perhaps you could buy your way out of the predicament by shouting your girl to a candle lit dinner.

Cheers, and all the best.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:53

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:53
OK Bruce

I went to the bloke a bloke in Murgon and he seem to know what he is talking about. He said similar things to you and asked if it was a drop axle.

Derrrr, please explain.

And to my surprise it is a drop axle. He said this could be rotated to reduce the size of the lift if thats what I wanted.

He took the time to show me what he would do and it made sense to me,, sort of. LOL

Anyway he will do the job early next week and hopefully all will be well.

Thanks for all your help and patience it's appreciated.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:38

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:38
Hi Boo Boo,

Glad to hear you got the problem sorted mate.

Mind you I read the part where you mentioned "Drop Axle" and I immediately thought, Oh No, that's the one thing I did not consider in my thinking. They can throw a spanner in the works sometimes but it appears you got the right fellow on the job.

Mate this kind of help cost nothing and as for patience well in these matters I have plenty. Just good to see you come out of it with a good outcome.

All the best.

Bruce.
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Reply By: snoopyone - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:14

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:14
On reading the latest Caravan Parks and Touring accomodation mag I noticed in there that doing this to a van requires an engineers certficaton and a modification plate issued by the relevant Detpt of Transport.


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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:15

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 15:15
snoopyone

Thanks for the heads up, I'll Look at that a little later.

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Reply By: Axle - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 16:32

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 16:32
G/Day BooBoo, ........Just let the Troopy tyres down a bit and pump the van ones up a bit......)))))))).



Cheers Axle..
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 16:45

Tuesday, Apr 12, 2011 at 16:45
Axle now why didn't I think of that.LOL

Glad I had the tyres deflated on Fraser Island last weekend,,, I almost got embarassed/bogged.

I still remember that I owe you a drink or two,, hopefully this yr at tumbi.

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