Cape York river crossings

We are planning a trip to the Cape mid-June. We can't seem to find information on whether any of the creek or river crossings are salt water, our concern being the corrosive effects on our vehicle. Also being aware you should walk a crossing before driving it, how on earth do you avoid being eaten by a croc in the process! Obviously we aren't experienced in travelling in areas where we become part of the food chain, so any advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Russ and Samantha
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Reply By: Bruce P2 - Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 14:19

Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 14:19
Russ & Samantha,

The only place you may come across any salt water is if you do any beach driving which is generally frowned upon up there now, you will get a bit of tidal influence at the top end of Lakefield on the Kennedy and Normanby Rivers but you shouldn't probably be up in those areas on your first trip with little experience.

Regarding the salties.........there are an abundance of signs warming of crocs on creek crossings where they are around, To be honest we have only ever seen two and they were WAY OFF the beaten path. Keep an eye out in Lakefield and just be careful and don't camp on coastal riverbanks where they maybe.

Read Ron and Viv Moons book on the cape and you will be fine.

If you are not comfortable with creek crossings take the bypass to the top.

The only other challenging crossing is the Pascoe River coming out of Chili Beach on Frenchmans track. If you do that track just wait for someone else to come along and ask for guidance and people will help.

By June the roads should have been graded and reverted back to corrugations so drive accordingly with correct tyre pressures. I would say that salt water corrosion is the least of your worries, you should be more concerned with the corrugations.

Make sure your tyres and suspension are in tip top condition before heading up.

Enjoy your trip.

Bruce

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Follow Up By: Member - flairgo - Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 16:49

Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 16:49
Thanks for your good advice Bruce, it's much appreciated. We always like to err on the side of caution rather than have something disastrous happen. It'll be assuring to know that there will be other experienced travellers up there to call upon for their knowledge should we need it.

Thanks
Russ and Sam
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Follow Up By: Bruce P2 - Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:08

Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:08
Russ & Sam,

Actually the biggest threat to you going up The Cape are the bogans who insist on driving up the Development road at 120 Kph and drive from Cairns to the top and back in a three day weekend.

At 120 k's they only hit the road every 5-6 meters so it smooths out the ride.

Coming out of the dips at 100 k's gives them at least 10 meters of air time as well.

When you see (or if you see) these bogans coming slow right down, pull to the side of the road (yes, they will be using ALL the road) and let the dust settle.

Bruce
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 09:32

Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 09:32
To say nothing of the rocks they throw up into your windscreen!

And Bruce that's good advice about pulling to the side. I had one power past (on his side) leaving a great cloud of dust behind him. Fortunately I DID slow right up and pull over because right behind him in the dust cloud came his mate, maybe trying to pass him, right over on MY side of the road. Just missed me as it was. B@$t@%#s.

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Allan

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Follow Up By: ducatijim - Monday, Apr 25, 2011 at 14:01

Monday, Apr 25, 2011 at 14:01
I asked this same question a few years back on a motorcycling forum in Australia just prior to an expedition to the tip and around the top, all I got was;

'Chuck a Kiwi in and if he reaches the other side, it should be safe from crocs!'

I survived, more by luck than knowledge Im sure!

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Reply By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 15:15

Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 15:15
Hi Russ and Samantha, Bruce's info is good.
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With vehicle activity there is unlikely to be crocs at the crossings but you are warned that walking may be risky. A good way is to wait until someone experienced (or more intrepid!) crosses and observe the path they take through the creek. There will be plenty of other travellers in mid June. There will also be people waiting at the creeks who will give advice on crossing or help you if you get stuck. Just go along with the camaraderie.
Waiting a while before crossing has another advantage........... It allows your engine to cool a bit before crossing. This has the advantage that your thermo-viscous engine fan will not be powering and chew itself into the radiator should you encounter deep water.

Go for it...... have a ball! Its a great trip.

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Follow Up By: Member - flairgo - Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 16:54

Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 16:54
It's reassuring that there will be back-up if we need it Al. We certainly will take all advice on board, and no doubt this will be a trip to always remember.

Thanks
Russ and Sam
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 06:39

Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 06:39
The Crocs on the OTL don't bite............................











They suck awful hard tho :-)


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Reply By: deserter - Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 16:37

Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 16:37
Chat with the locals on this forum

http://www.capeyorkforums.com/forums/
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Reply By: dieseltojo - Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 20:00

Saturday, Apr 23, 2011 at 20:00
Hi flairgo,
All rivers up there can have a lodger in them. The Jardine is brackish and I crossed it where the old telegraph line met the river.That was with a GQ Nissan so that was a while ago. I always walk all rivers up that way but in those days I was a pretty good shot with a 375 H&H.
The Jardine is 180 meters wide and not to be taken for granted. There were a few deep holes so it is best to locate them and take a sharp stick and mark them.
Don't worry about the brackish water just give it a good wash when you get home.

I had the GQ for 10 years and no sign of rust.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 06:36

Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 06:36
I would very strongly advise against crossing the Jardine at the old crossing. Since the ferry went in, the crossing is very very very very very treacherous.

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Follow Up By: Member - flairgo - Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 20:54

Sunday, Apr 24, 2011 at 20:54
Yeh we were planning to take the car ferry across the Jardine anyway - if that option is there, why wouldn't you. That's a good idea to mark out any deep holes just in case - even better if you had a set of croc-proof stilts... he he he
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Reply By: eighty matey - Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:25

Tuesday, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:25
Hi Russ and Samantha,

most of the crossings are fairly easy if you take your time. The only crossing we had trouble with was Nolans Brook and that was my fault for not concentrating enough. We drive a diesel with a snorkel fitted and waited until one of travelling partners pulled us out. A car bra, or tarp covering the grill will help with some of the deeper crossings. All of the crossings on the Old Telegraph Track are fresh water and Bramwell Station at the start of the OTL can give you advise if you ask.

Take your time and enjoy it. We spent two nights on the OTL, staying at Dulhunty and Canal Creeks. Try to avoid the school holidays if you can because it gets very busy then. It's a great part of the world. You can do it as hard, or as easy as you want.

Have fun.
Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - flairgo - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2011 at 13:05

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2011 at 13:05
Thanks for your input Steve. Just wondering, once you stop mid-way crossing a creek does that make the 'car bra' become ineffective and also because you're not moving forward if it's deep, would water start leaking through the door seals?
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Follow Up By: eighty matey - Wednesday, Apr 27, 2011 at 18:20

Wednesday, Apr 27, 2011 at 18:20
With the diesel the engine turned over with no problems because they don't have the auto electricals in the engine to drown. We have a Safari (brand) snorkel fitted which stops the air intake sucking water into the engine. The vehicle sat there idling for about five minutes until we were pulled out.

A lot of water seeped in through the door seals, as well as the where cables run through the fire wall. The water was up to the passenger seat inside. It took about a minute for it to really start coming in. We had made sure anything of value was put up high before we crossed any of the creeks really. The only loss was two sachets of hot chocolate in our food drawer, and the young ones claimed that.
The water is fresh water so that wasn't an issue and with the temperasture up there, plus the heat generated in the floor pan driving we never had an issue with the carpets drying out. Everything was back to normal within a few days.

The reason we got stuck was because I really didn't concentrate going into the crossing. I went in too slow, and "in high range". I'm not sure if it was because we had crossed so many creeks, or what, but I went into a one metre deep crossing, with a sandy, composted vegetation base creek like I was crossing a causeway with six inches of water. We wre lucky but we were prepared for a recovery and had the strap on the front before we went in.

The Old Telegraph Track is not hard if you have some experience and have a vehicle with good tyres and a sorkel. It would be best done with someone else as a moral support, if nothing else. In June there are plenty of people up there and we found it a great experience.

Then there's the Frenchmans Track .....
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