Spelling!

Hoo cairs abowt spelin?
I thort thiss fawrum woz abowt travlin an campin?

Ps. I tryd spellchekn Hoo an fownd nothin?

Hey Bill -
I jusd whish my problams in lief where az big az yors ! Doent no howe yoo kope ! Lukky I'ma had miself a good edjamacation and hav kno reezon too komplane abowt triviel tings like speling !

Sea yoo in da boosh


Gazz

This won't last long before the Mods designate it as off topic or somthin.

And i didn't think it was a prerequisit to know how to spell on this forum or have A high IQ.
The trouble is with some of us Dyslexic types is now matter how many times you reed it befour posting you can never find the mistooks.
And no funchtion to modify to the replie after postid.
Or somfin like that!!LOL


Rob

Hi Bill

At my request, there was a poll some time ago (18 months or more maybe?), asking if the spell checker should be launched automatically before a thread , comment or reply was submitted, or, in other words, hit 'submit', and the spell check came up automatically.

75% of respondents, or something like that, agreed that it would be a good idea. Nothing came of it. Apparently polls are only good for marketing, and not taken seriously if a non-marketing topic is the subject.

We all make mistakes, typo's etc. Some of us spell more correctly than others. I understand some people have trouble spelling, I am not great at maths. After 2 years or more, I now just go with the flow. If I don't see a typo or spelling error as I proof read this, it will just be submitted ... bugga spell check, no-one else seems to care.

You will just have to get used to it mate.

Cheers, Dave

Although I had a good laugh at the above replies, I very much agree with you Bill. I do like to take pride and care with the written word, as I think it reflects on how standards have slipped over the years. I'm not the greatest at spelling and a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I was at school, but with a spell check facility on computers, there really is no excuse.

Regards

Jon

Bill,

I'm less worried by the illiterates than I am about the rude bu@@ers.

Skull

And lets not get started on "text speak" Bill. I have noticed this creeping into posts as well. Ah for the good old School teachers. (Apologies to those old school teachers that are still there.) Bob

I do agree somewhat with Bill because those that do not pay attention to detail reflects that they may not do other tasks as well as they should.
There are many things that people let slip and it is never to late to learn.
Many write like they text and others think that is the norm, eh.

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Hay bill the up side off not being a good at spelling & reading is that we don't know when the spelling is not correct , nor do I care that much as long as it can be under stood by others. p.s I tried bbuzz in spell check !!!! What tha

I agree, too much criticism and get more genuine input on this site.

Spelling's fine for those of us who can, but I fear threads like these only serve to scare off 'new readers', and those learning to spell and punctuate. Just because English is my first language, I don't assume that it's everyone's.

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I don't know about spelling but I type on this forum very slow as I know that most of you blokes CAN'T READ FAST

Bill,

A lot's been said already, but I'd like to respond to your comment "as people get older they should be more aware of correct presentation of the written word and take pride in writing correctly."

As I get older my memory isn't improving and those spelling errors that once would have been obvious are too often just doubtful. Couple this with the lots of reading other's poor spelling and the poor spelling becomes accepted as being correct, at least in my grey matter. The language is dynamic anyway and new words continuously creep in, especially Americanisms thanks to so much cheap American in our TV diet.

And that's not all. Likewise grammar. I was taught never to start a sentence with "and" or a preposition, that every sentence needed a verb. And the opening sentence in a paragraph should define what that paragraph is about.

My English teacher would be horrified by that previous paragraph, but in today's English I think it's probably almost acceptable.

Cheers

John

I do apologize in advance for any spelling mistakes in my post. As english is my second language I sometimes have problems not so much with spelling but the correct use of the written words. I can assure you that my written german is a lot better (LOL)

Rudi

I to wish to apologize early, for IF and when I post.

Being slightly dyslexic and getting older and having to re-read not only the posts that I do hit enter on, but things in general does really Su!!k. Yes I get embarrassed when its pointed out, which is why I don't post allot but read others knowledge and learn from that.

But what is more annoying is getting old and becoming a whinge, the grumpy old man that has nothing better to do but complain. Iam glad slipping at spelling is all I'll have so far.

Bill,

It would be nice if proper spelling was used and sentences were structured correctly, as some are simply impossible to read. However we all have different levels of "presentation of the written word."

For example, some people may believe that if one is writing about the pride of the written word, one would not use such colloquial expressions as "slag off."

R.

Most forumites' attempts at correct grammar, punctuation and spelling are quite readable. We all make "typos" from time to time and it (generally) doesn't detract form the readability of the thread.
However, it is the occasional lengthy entry with no capitals, no attempt at sentence structure and no punctuation that irks me.
The resultant composition is unintelligible and I can't be bothered trying to get my head around it.... so I move on.
Bob

Is Spelling and Dotting the I and Crossing the T with Commas and Full Stops ect the most important thing you have to worry about?, some one mentioned you can tell what sort of education one has or had, re: words to that effect, my schooling stopped at Grade 8 or in those days they called it Scholarship, a lot of other people didn't get that far due to different circumstances, through no fault of their own, ok a lot of the younger generation have gone through Secondary Schooling and Uni, so does that make them a better person, or should that give them the right to Criticize others on this Forum, I don't think so, this is a Forum for every one with similar interests and the last thing we want as Members and Visitors it to stop people from contributing because of the fear that they might not have spelt a word properly or used a word the wrong way.

Cheers

you do know with a slow internet speed the spell checker is a pain in the butt and sometimes does not work, and honestly, really who cares...........
Whats say we all were "perfect", or spelling was spot on, every question had pleases and thankyous ...........
If we were that good we could find EVERY answer simply by using Google and not need to use the forum at all, but that is not the point, it is to get the answer from someone that likes to type in an answer, bad spelling and all ....
The post has NOTHING to do with "Exploring" OZ yet you got answers, some are very funny and some even admit they do it to get a reaction, how boring would it be if it was only a bunch of retired chalkys using it ... hahhaha

If your refering to my post, I had a tetchy 2.5yr old on my lap playing with the keyboard, and was lucky to post anything at all.

T

Hi Everyone!As a school teacher I can assure you there are many children out there who struggle with many areas in literacy, but this not a reflection of there intelligence. Some of the brightest people on earth have been dyslexic! To name a few Albert Einstein, William Churchill and many others. So please do not have a go at people who struggle to spell until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Many of these students work many times harder than the students who find literacy easy.
I know I am on my soapbox, but I have seen many of my students feel upset, dumb and just plain stupid by remarks other people make. As I tell my students we all good at different things and being good at certain things does not make us any better than anyone else.
Please next time you judge someone elses literacy skills think about how they might be so much better than you at something ellse. I also ask my students only to use words to lift someone up not tear them down, and think what it would be like to walk a mile in their shoes
Barb

I think courtesy is more important and more welcomed that spelling and grammar. Several posts have been started about the lack of pleases and thank yous, or even acknowledging that they have read a reply to their question. I replied to a question a while ago, and the poster has put a comment on almost every answer he received. How hard is that to do? Good to see, and it encourages us to go on formulating replies we think will help others.

Motherhen

I'm amazed..... surely this great thread will be knocked on the head soon!

I find it very difficult to read some posts because of the spelling [I'm a teacher]. I understand that many can't spell well, but it is usually more to do with not being bothered to check.

I guess my biggest irritation at the moment is the errant apostrophe's.

Have loved reading all the comments and agree with most of them about spelling not being a mojor issue on this site but I have one question.
Where is Bill B1 ??????? No comment since original post unless I have overlooked somewhere.

Cheers
Simon.

Well am going to the mud races this weekend and that should make me head Bogan
cause if you spell mud backwards it comes out dum. I wanted to put the b on the end of dum but that would make me a dum bum.

Hi Bill/all,

I'm not too worried about spelling mistakes if its a legitimate error as not every one is educated (notice I didn't say intelligent, there's a huge difference) I know it can grate some people but I believe there is more in life to worry about.

Cheers Wilko

I had to laugh though I shouldn’t have. I was reading the latest news on Yahoo/The West and read this report
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/9274648/tourist-ambo-officer-winched-out-of-karijini/

I had this vision of the Ambos bashing the French man’s broken leg into tiny fragments saying “You silly tourist”

“The man's leg was splintered by Tom Price St John Ambulance officers, who had walked down into the gorge.”

I am totally in love with the power of the English language as a tool to communicate… I read a LOT and for many years worked in areas where my ability to use the language (both verbal and written) was my saleable skill.

Communication (either written or verbal) is about using language to impart your ideas, information, needs or desires and to often influence others. Communication that cannot be understood by the recipient is just hot air or noise (or a waste of electrons).

The English language has certain conventions; spelling, punctuation, sentence structure, all the things teachers try to teach or which can be learnt by using language in a social situation (reading is a social situation, someone is trying to communicate with you). If you do not follow these conventions you run the risk of your communication being ignored or mistaken.

You want your communication to be listened to, you need to present it in a way that the recipient can understand. I’m not a pedant when it comes to spelling or grammar, but if the person does not take the care (and courtesy) to ensure that the communication can be understood, why should I give a tinker’s about what they are saying.

3 years ago, I suffered a brain injury, which affected my language skills (spelling is one area). Rather than afflict any reader with my spelling, I write my posts out in Word first.

Better spell check than the forum offers, simple to do and my responses are slightly more considered.

To a point I can agree with Bill. But this is not a court of law so I have to shut my mouth.

The biggest problem is that people are losing the art of accurate written communication because they do not know how to structure things as well as needed.

Take the recent flood and the misunderstanding that some people had in believing they were insured. Morally they may have been but apparently grammatically they weren't. The tricks that one can be by just clicking "I agree" instead of reading and comprehending the formal written word.

Exactly the same can be had with rental agreements and saying "I thought it meant that I could do that".

I did a lot of document reviews before finishing work. They used to give me the document, printed of course that way they cannot change online what I am reviewing, and a bunch of red pens. I am talking about highly educated engineers in the Aerospace industry who had troubles.

To the gentleman who quoted Henry Lawson. That was prose and falls outside normal grammar guidelines. As does poetry and music.

Anyone can make an error. So why not us. Why not me! But I do try to do it correctly, to ensure my point is not ambiguous.

Phil

what about apostrophes - where should they be used? Its? It's? Yours? Your's?
et al...

I love it!

Finally we are allowed to have a general discussion on a completely "off topic" theme.... and hasn't it stretched on for a long time?

A real forum for people with like minds and interests, not just a technical question and answer session. Will this continue? I'll log on every night if so!