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Submitted: Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 16:23
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hi everyone
i am currently filling our hilux with"caltex Vortex diesel" what is the difference with normal diesel(beside the price)
thank you GG
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Reply By: spudseamus - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 16:29

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 16:29
It dosent foam up as much as others and is supposed to give ya more bang for the buck!
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Reply By: Axle - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:26

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:26
Its got more Lemonade in it...)))))).


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: benq - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:31

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:31
if this is the case my wife will be able to taste it she is partiial to lemonade Axke.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 19:07

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 19:07
Lol Benq!!,......A Repuatable diesel mechanic told me ",unless the diesel is the colour of white wine ", stay clear of it, I've always used BP Probably supplied by Caltex and most of the time its got the green dye in it but have never noticed any difference in performance or economy in machines or vehicles, as long as its clean is my motto.

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Rockape - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:33

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:33
Mine is an old school V8 diesel and all it does for my old girl is cost more. Maybe it is better in the common rail diesels but trucks run common rail and don't use the premium fuels. New Scania flagship truck engines are 730hp and 3500nm of torque and I guess they will use standard diesel.

Have a good one
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 19:37

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 19:37
Go to their website and look at the material safety data sheet for Vortex Diesel and it appears there is no difference from any other Caltex diesel. LINK.

Caltex have not provided any additional data for Vortex diesel so until they do I won't consider using it.

Our "Euro 5" VW Tiguan needs 51 cetane diesel - BP diesel and Ultimate diesel are the only diesel fuels that meets this requirement, so we use BP.

As far as your Hilux goes, if its a D4D, I'd give the Coles and Woolies dockets the flick and buy the best diesel for your common rail motor.
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 21:48

Saturday, Apr 30, 2011 at 21:48
This Caltex website describes Caltex Vortex Premium Diesel as being "specially formulated to clean your car's fuel system while you drive."

My question is........ why would my fuel system be in need of cleaning if I have been using only Caltex diesel? Is their regular diesel dirty?

Sounds to me to be a bit like the advertisements for dishwasher cleaners. Isn't that is what the regular dishwasher powder supposed to do......... clean?
Or like putting nitrogen in your tyres? ....... here we go!

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Reply By: patsproule - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 06:33

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 06:33
If you read the MSDS on Vortex, the extra ingredient is "Methyl Esters from Lipid Sources". Translation.... Biodiesel. That's it.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:07

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:07
hi patsproule
thats actually why they are claiming that vortex diesel keeps your fuel system clean
its diluted with bio-diesel
i've tryed them all and did notice anything that was worth the extra i had forked out for in any brands imho
just another pull the wool advertising gimmick
cheers barry
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:29

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:29
sorry that was suppose to read
didn't notice anything
cheers
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Reply By: gbc - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 08:17

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 08:17
Is anyone else running a bit of two stroke in their diesel? The colorado's been on it for three years and 70000 kms so far.
I run it at 200:1, simply for lubricity, not performance.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:26

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:26
hi gbc
yes i'm using it in both my diesel vehicles engines
they both run much quieter and smoother eg
vw golf 1.9tdi
and mazda bravo 1996 2.5ltr diesel with aftermarket safari turbo

there has absolutely been no difference in fuel consumption and anyone who claims they are getting better fuel figures while using 2 stroke additive in the diesel
imho is dreaming
cheers barry
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 08:51

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 08:51
Vortex diesel ? Perhaps its designed to suck you in [price wise] and really only works better as claimed if its used in conjuction with that other mileage enhancer known as the air swirling vortex enhancing [ dare I say it] HICLONE, ,,,,,,LOL.
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Follow Up By: Bushtrek - Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:52

Sunday, May 01, 2011 at 12:52
For a diesel engine that is designed for a Cetane number range between say 42 and 48, the use of fuels with higher cetane number actually results in slightly worse fuel economy.
The upside of using higher cetane number fuels (ie; Super diesels) is they have a slightly faster combustion which results in apparent smoother engine operation with less diesel knock.
These higher cetane number fuels are specially suited to high speed passenger car diesel engines.
To achieve the higher cetane number fuel formulators have to either reduce fuel density (use lighter components with less energy density), add oxygenated fuels including biofuels, or add esters of low molecular weight compounds such as 2-Ethylhexyl nitrate ( a favourite).

The use of these higher cetane fuels in engine developing peak torque around 2,000 rpm is not warranted.
Recent studies in the US where these fuels have been sold for some time has returned an overall fleet fuel use increase of between 1% and 2%.
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