Why do lots of member trips say no campers please

I think the only restriction is Wells 1 - 5.
We had 4 vehicles, 3 with camper trailers & had no problems whatsoever.

Yep my apologies it's between Canning wells 2 and 5 for no trailers and wide tracked vehicles. Shaker, that's a good effort for your team.

Cheers Mick

Thanks Mick, the reason our 4th vehicle had no trailer, was that he would lead at the dunes & if one of us had a problem, he could just snatch us over the top, to save chopping up the track. It worked very well.

Hi Mick,
I'm sorry to say that I have to disagree about the CSR taking a toll on a trailer although I hasten to add that it's 8 years since I did the CSR towing a Kimberley Kamper.

I had zero difficulty but perhaps this was because I took everything slowly and drove to the conditions - none of this "let 'er rip" attitude to the dunes.

My #7590 may be of interest.

However, the corrugations may be worse today after a further 8 years of travellers doing the trip.

Cheers,

Richard, you were also towing a state of the art camper and one that is recognised for its build quality and its suspension set up. You could not compare the KK or an Ultimate camper with the vast majority (I'm making a gross generalisation there but you know what I mean) of entry level or generic campers and/or plain trailers out there today. Take my homemade quad trailer. It's robust, solid and built with rough travelling in mind and yet it's copped a flogging over the past couple of years and suffered issues. From recollection the Ulti's have Konig shockers and I'd presume the KK have similar. This is on top of incredibly robust independent suspension systems and a construction that's intended to stand up to a pounding. How would your GIC "4x4" camper stand up to the prolonged corrugations of the Canning, Gunbarrell or Anne Beadell? You are right in that driving style and preparation have everything to do with vehicle and equipment survivability but the quality of the equipment plays an even bigger part. What I'm saying is that anything will take a pounding out there and it will break...eventually. Even KK's break (well bits rattle off them more than them falling apart). Even the best of accessories will suffer and fail in prolonged arduous conditions like the canning. Yes you probably could successfully pull a $3,500 dollar Chinese made camper trailer along the Canning if you took it very (sorry that should be VERY, VERY) slowly and carefully. Conditions on the iconic tracks today take their toll and many recent threads on the ABH in particular reinforce that.

Wish I could afford a KK or Ulti. They are the bees knees.

Cheers Mick

TRACK DAMAGE CAUSED BY TOWING TRAILERS ALONG CANNING STOCK ROUTE
Australian National Four Wheel Drive Council (Four Wheel Drive Australia). Plan to use your swag or tent and leave your camper trailers at home. More than the usual wear and tear caused by travellers towing trailers is of great concern to our fraternity and the locals. Part of the attraction of this route is the challenge of driving through such a vast wild natural area. The track is not maintained and for the few who drive it each year this great experience is being lessened by track and roadside damage caused during attempts to haul trailers over dunes in particular. Nobody wants a highway through this area but it does need suitably set up vehicles to traverse its challenges. With improved durability in camper trailer design, the track is now the weak link rather than the equipment. The damage caused by towing trailers highlights that these are not appropriate for this route.

Four Wheel Drive Australia request that trailers not be taken on the Canning Stock Route.

If you were behind them, how do you know that they did the damage?

Maybe it was existing damage slowing them down, caused by bogans with massive wheels & tyres getting their rocks off by driving back & forth through mud holes!

Hey there Mr. Pointyhead,

I think you have sort of hit the nail on the head there. I don't necessarily agree that camper trailers are the problem, but some PEOPLE take campers where they really should not!

Case in point your example, an experienced driver with well set-up vehicle towing an offroad camper shouldn't have had any problem towing through an easy high range 4x4 section of track. If at all possible, courtesy would suggest letting you and other vehicles through as well, especially if it was only a short section of track.

A lot of track damage is done around this country by inexperienced drivers (Both with AND without trailers).

And to the original poster, I guess some members trips request this because they don't want to (nor should they have to) accept responsibilty for some one towing a trailer if things go wrong.

Have a good one.

I agree with Shaker.

I have a KK and will take where I want to go. It is knuckle heads that dig up traks not responsible users. As for them being slow they were ahead of you.....

Swing on by My Swag
These guys know the in's & out's of camper Trailers.
They'll point you in the right direction about how to set your rig up.
It's a big country.
Happy trails.

I may be wrong but I thought it was vehicles going up hill that had the "unwritten" right of way!

No. Those coming down have right of way it's easier to back down than up. That's the way I was taught....still difficult with a trailer behind you!!

It is easier to get restarted going downhill!

It's up has right of way for me ................... break a vehicles momentum and he not be able to get going again .................. Shaker has it.

Hi AGNI4X4, I think Shaker is saying coming down has right of way which is what I am saying. Have you ever met a vehicle coming up a steep climb & you believe he should back up the hill. Don't think so. The correct method is for the vehicle going up to reverse back & allow the vehicle coming down the right of way. It's easier to do a key start backwards & try & attempt a key start in reverse going up the track!!! Never seen it done in 40 years and as an ex instructor I have never done a reverse key start UP a track backwards...LOL especially with a trailer on the back which is what this post is all about

Yep - simple as that.