landcruiser 200 series extra diesel filter
Submitted: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 20:23
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larry w1
hello all will be out and about the the outback soon will be very remote . have been told to fit a extra fuel filter to the v8 diesel in my 200 series but am having trouble finding a small enough filter to fit under the bonnet . has anyone done this I am in
Bendigo victoria . I am told it must be fitted bfore the main filter and be around 30 microns with a water trap
Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 21:19
Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 21:19
I have a V8 ute and i am considering the same installation.
I spoke with a diesel engineer and he agreed with having a pre filter and showed me a filter to do the job.
His setup has a filter canister with an optional screw on water trap.
He stated that the pre filter must not restrict the flow to the primary filter.
The pre filters dimensions appear as large as the primary and room to fit it is a problem.
However, I think if I made a 'U' shape bracket and fitted both filters back to back I may be able to squeeze them in.
If I go back to him next week he can loan me a complete filter to take
home for physical dimensions.
Will post the result next week.
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Follow Up By: larry w1 - Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 21:40
Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 21:40
what you are saying pinko is the same as what i am hearing ,my local dealer loaned me a fuel manager filter that would do the job 30 microns with the drainable water trap on the bottom .the only trouble was it was 250mm long to big to fit in the engine bay. There are a lot of these trucks running around out there someone must have one fitted . Have spoken to a few diesel injection people and common rail is still new ground a few have said that our diesel fuel is still not always up to scratch.
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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 22:26
Wednesday, May 11, 2011 at 22:26
Hi Larry
The unit I was shown did not appear to be that long but more the lenght of the original equipment.
In many flood prone rural towns diesel is held in above ground tanks and a tank that may be half full of air with hot days and cold nights promotes water condensation. The water trap on the end of the tank looks as if it has not cleaned in months worries me and I think in $$$$$$.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 05:55
Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 05:55
larry w1
Standard fuel filters, only filter out bricks, and basically nothing else.
As far as I know, Ryco, Cooper, and most other filters go down to 10 - 12 micron
I use Bosche 5 micron filters, and if I need to go down further I will do so .
Dirty fuel will kill common rail fuel punps, and that is it, and you are talking big $$$$ to fix. up to $10,000
Why chance it, for a few $$$
I would do 2 things
1) Go to Toyota, and find out if your warranty is void, if you use a better fuel filter system. ( I have heard that some vehicle manufacturers may void your warranty )
2) Go to a propper diesal specialist, and fit the best filter system you can get.
2 micron is a hole lot better than 12-15 micron trust me
Cheers
Bucky
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Follow Up By: hotfishez - Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 08:47
Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 08:47
2 micron filters can also restrict fuel supply rate
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Follow Up By: Member - Rob Mac (QLD) - Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 22:15
Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 22:15
Hi hotfishez, I was going to fit a Racor 500 using a (2 micron element as I had access to buy at staff prices) assembly to my then Hilux 3.0Lt diesel a few years ago but after talking to a diesel mechanic who had fitted a Lucas 296 water seperator assm (7-10 micron I think but they do not usually publish the specs) to his Landcruiser work vehicle, said he had to put an electric fuel pump between the tank and Lucas assm to "push" the fuel through to the standard fuel filters as the pump on the engine would not "draw' the fuel through fast enough resulting in starvation issues. Funny that this topic should come up tonight as my supervisor at work today gave me a brochure from Donaldson about a new filter system kit, I might have a closer look at it but at the moment I am quite happy with the 2 filter system on my HDJ79
Cheers
Rob Mac
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Reply By: 02.murray - Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 17:59
Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 17:59
Hi Larry
We recently did a 9 month trip around Australia and spent most of it in quite remote
places. We fitted a marine filter to our 200 series landcruiser. This was fitted just before the original filter and was done by Macquarie 4 x 4, Windsor, NSW. I suggest you give Mark a call and say I suggested you call. He knows me
well and has done a lot of work on my fourbies (and most recently the 200). We did 36,000km and had no trouble at all.
Hope this helps
Murray Willett
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Follow Up By: larry w1 - Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 21:39
Thursday, May 12, 2011 at 21:39
I have travelled all over oz for many years in my 40 then 60, 80 ,100 series with only a few minor fuel problems that were easy to fix . I have still been talking to diesel injection specialests and are getting confusing different answers But the all say common rail deisels are very exspensive to fix and good clean fuel is needed. water is the main killer because the filter will stop the solids but once the water builds up it will pass through the filter elements . Will call Macquarie 4x4 friday Murray Thanks regards to all Larry
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 13, 2011 at 09:39
Friday, May 13, 2011 at 09:39
Larry,
Its interesting that the 40 and 60 series diesels had a water separator fitted to the chassis rail with a neat little drain plug. If water appeared in the separator, the light on the dash would go on and you'd drain the water before it reached the fuel filter. Perhaps that's what you need now!
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