Gearbox grumble
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 00:01
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Camper
Hi All,
Our Mitsi Challenger has some gearbox grumble which can clearly be heard at idle. It disappears when the clutch is depressed and returns on its release. Two Mitsi dealers have said It is not a problem, the second one saying that it was cluster gear rollover. On both occaisions I was reassured but I'm still suspicious. Does any one have experience with this. Will an oil additive like Moreys or lucas quieten it down?
Reply By: Wombat (Victoria) - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 11:18
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 11:18
Camper,
Don't stress! It sounds like the typical Mr Bitchy thrust bearing noise. I've never heard a Triton which doesn't have it. Both of our Tritons had it from new. Jonnyknowalittlebit's Triton has it. My next door neighbour's new Pajero has it. And the Challenger I get given as a loan car when
mine's in for service has it. It won't go away, but from what I can gather it's not causing any damage. I've not heard of a Mitsubishi 4WD gearbox imploding - unlike some other makes. Hmmmm, then again it's not often that I've heard the words "Mitsubishi" and "broken" in the same sentence."Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 16:07
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 16:07
Camper,
For what it's worth I wouldn't start filling the box up with additives, they will quiten the box down being more viscous but with the viscosity comes the oils ability to hold onto metal particles and in turn accelerate the wear, if you ever take the additives out you will notice a considerable difference. Two things you can do is to change the oil and get rid of any particles that are being moved around the boxnow and do more oil changes, this is never going to hurt, oils cheap, if you really want to get excited you could get an oil sample analysed to see exactly what wear particles you have in the oil, you also may consider a synthetic oil, putting this in could have eithe good or bad results there isn't much in the middle. In two cases I've had good results and in one a bad result where the box deteriorated. When gearboxes go wrong they don't fix themselves, a noisey box may last for a long long time but it will always crap out just when you don't want it to. Hope some of this helps. Keep the shiny side up
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Reply By: Camper - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 22:54
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 22:54
Thank you to everone who has shown interest.
I guess I am most pleased to hear that other Mitsi's have the same problem (that's if it is a problem) The way people are talking it seems as if it might just be cluster rollover as the dealer suggested.
The lil truck is out of warranty, Truckster, as we bought it third hand with too many k's up other wise I'd be making a lot of noise!
The dealer pointed out, just as you said, Dixie that if they repaired it the sound may soon return.
I might just let sleeping dogs lie, but if I let out the oil any run it over a magnet, Martyn will I see any bits attatched to the magnet if the box is shedding metal?
Thanks again everyone.
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 15:43
Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 15:43
Camper,
You will see tiny silver slithers more than clumps of metal, when you drain the oil out into a clean container, an old coffee tin is good, shine a torch into the oil sometimes you can see the silver speckles in the torch light. Also pour the oil away through a
kitchen sponge this tends to catch any bits and peices so you can see how bad things are. Don't forget to wash the sponge out before using in the
kitchen again, new sponge might be the better option, saves ending up in the doghouse for EVA.......... In my opinion you can never change oil often enough, pushing out change intervals in my opinion is false economy especially where you have components that are relying on friction to make them work, syncros for instance. I hope it all works out cheaply. Keep the shiny side up
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