1997 Landcruiser 4.5L Petrol
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 00:05
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After 2 months of research and some shocking experence with car dealer, I deposit $200 out of $25,000 for a 1997 Landcruiser 4.5L Petrol with 156K on the clock while a condiction of RACQ inspection is used for safe line. I know all the advantages of having Turbo diesel but they are either out of my price range or too old to work with ( $25,000 for a 1991 TD done 250K, $30,000 for a 1993 model done 200K+ )
This Landcruiser equipped with all outback gear I needed,
snorkel, new BF Goodrich tyres, mags, new Old Man Emu
suspension, bullbar, Hayman Reece towbar, electric brakes, spotties, rear tyre-carrier, full galv roofrack, Duel Tanks,CB and GXL standard gear.
Is there someone can help me find out if
1.Is this a reasonable price for above car?
2.Is 156K approaching the end of the engine?
3.What is the average maximum mileage for a 4.5L Toyota engine.
4. Any known fault on 1997 model?
Any commets are highly appreciated.
Reply By: roscoe - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:44
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:44
Gday chenj3, I have a 1993 GXL 80 series and it has done 167,000km. My mechanic has a 1996 GXL with over 300,000km. Both are 4.5L petrol and he says there is no stopping them from going forever. My rig is insured with NRMA for $24,000 and it has only a bull bar, Hayman Reese tow bar, IPF spotties, OME, Dual batteries and a compressor. So, yes, I think you are doing
well with your setup. Being among the last of the 80 series (I think production finished in 1998), all the main bugs would have been ironed out of the system by then. You go for it mate, so long as the RACQ gives it the all clear. Hope this helps.
Seeya, Roscoe.
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Reply By: Member - Eric- Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 07:42
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 07:42
4.5 Petrol . is good for 350 to 400,000 kms , so 157 is nothing to worry about , The price isnt bad for a car yard in Qeelsland anyway. I thought they would be asking up to 30 k for something like that up there . I am a wholesaler here in
Melbourne , and I would pay up to $21,000 here for that same car , If it is a genuine car , meening no accident's ect , sounds good
Venus Bay
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Reply By: Russell [Pajero] - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 08:37
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 08:37
Was looking at at 97 Patrol with bull bar and HR tow equipment 4.2l EFI 157k on clock, very clean for $25,000. Nearly bought it but got stuffed aroud by salesman and when I saw the fuel economy figures of 20l/100k I baulked.
Bought a 1999 Mitsubishi Pajero instead.
RTA
Russell
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Reply By: Member - Howard- Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 14:37
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 14:37
hi chenj3,
I have a 93gxl 4.5litre has done 345,000 and wouldnt ever put more than 1 litre in between 10,000 service intervals and then only if doing lots of highway running.
motors are basically bullet proof.
fuel consumption hurts best I've got is 5.17km/litre but worst is also 4/litreand that includes trips such as gunbarrell, GGR. ,
mitchell falls, tanami , googs,
coffin bay . truck is permanently loaded and runs roof rack full time.
regards
Howard
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Reply By: chenj3 - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 18:01
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 18:01
Thank you guys for providing so many valuable feedbacks to my question.
I have organized RACQ MasterCheck for this purchase tomorrow and will post the report highlight here again once I got it.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 18:22
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 18:22
Hi
I can only reitterate above, as i have a 275km 94 fzj80 auto.
best advice i can give on the motor is to look closely at the heater hoses at rear of tappet cover to see if there is any shiney stainless hose clamps there, what that would indicate is problems with a small hose that comes out the back of the head. When these let go, the valve seals invariably suffer. Just keep it in mind. The next thing you will be looking to do isa the front C/V joints, somewhere between 200 and 250, they start clicking around corners, and are pricey to replace.
Andrewwheredayathinkwer mike?
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 18:23
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 18:23
PS if you dont mind the shade of black, there is a 97 t/d auto sahara with 150kms in the for sales for 33k
Awheredayathinkwer mike?
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Follow Up By: chenj3 - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 13:21
Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 13:21
Hi Dozer,
Do you have the contact info for the 97 t/d auto sahara with 150kms you mentioned in your mail. I am keen to pay a bit more to a Diesel Sahara.
Cheers
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Reply By: Chris (W.A.) - Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 23:06
Thursday, Nov 20, 2003 at 23:06
Got my 93 petrol RV for $25000 in 1999 with 170,000kms on the clock. All pretty much standard except for the bullbar and sidesteps.
Have since added all the extras.
I blew the head at about 250,000kms - other than that no major dramas.
Oh...I did break the rear axle three months ago on the
gibb river road but admittedly it's had a fairly hard life. Not a 'toorak tractor' that's for sure.
Regards,Nice southerly coastal fishing trip someday.
Chris
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Follow Up By: chenj3 - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 13:28
Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 13:28
Hi Chris,
Thak you for your info. Do you do a lot of serious 4WDing otherwise do I expect to see similar blown cylindar head from L/C ? how much $ did you spend for the blown head? hope under $5000.
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Follow Up By: Chris (W.A.) - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 21:55
Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 21:55
Luckily I got mate's rates and costed me about $1200. It would have been about $2400 normally.
Heads going on the 4.5L I think are more of rarity. I've yet to come across another owner who it's happened to. I do alot of 4wding, I think in the past two years about 30% of my mileage has been on the tar. Have used alot of high revs in mud and beach so that wouldn't of helped too much.
I'll will throw a 1hz diesel in it when this one croaks, only because of economy. With my currently fuel economy I have a maximum range of 1300kms, if it was diesel it would be more like 2000kms with the same amount of fuel.
I'll give it all credit, very powerful and has excellent offroad power (especially if it's a manual) and after driving it for 5 years would never put one of those V8
smokey detroits in it. It's got more than enough power. Towing camper trailers & caravans...no, I would get the diesel, as
mine gives about 20L/100kms. It used to be less but with about an extra tonne of gear it's gone up. Nissan must have seen how good they were and brought out their version of the 4.5L. Alot of people will swear by their 80 series and I know some 100series owners that would prefer to stick with good old 80.
RegardsNice southerly coastal fishing trip someday.
Chris
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