Shocks for comfort and control

Submitted: Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:49
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Specifically I need to know about the Landrover Discovery and the Ford Explorer.
The problem is the Disco has a very harsh choppy ride, my 1 tonne 2wd Triton rides better and the Explorer is very floaty and not well controlled.

Will fitting good shocks like Bilstein or Koni fix these problems?
I don't mean just improve, I mean fix it right up?

Or even a spring and shock change.
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Reply By: Hero - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:04

Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:04
Buying a name like Bilstein or Koni isnt going to make your vehicle drive any more brilliant than any other, you have to chose correct components to suit your needs, The european brands have a slight quality edge but performance is only marginally better than others. Remember no single component can do everything well, some compromise must be made between comfort and load carrying ability. Discuss different technologies such as adjustablity and Foam Cell with tech shops.
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Reply By: pathfinder - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:24

Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:24
Disco - harsh choppy ride sounds like your springs are too firm, or maybe shocks aren't controlling the spring rebound well enough - Discos normally give a very good ride. Whilst I think Koni shocks are better than Old Man Emus, the advantage of going to ARB for OMEs is that they will only replace what is required and their shocks and springs are well matched.

As for Explorer with typically soft suspension, ARB should be able to sort that too if they have an OME kit for Explorers...
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Follow Up By: Hero - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 13:57

Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 13:57
WHICH THEY DO NOT...
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 14:43

Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 14:43
I had Bilsteins on the rear of my Discovery and Woodheads (original equip ???) on the front. Had a good ride all round but would pitch a bit on rough stuff.
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Reply By: marcus - Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 17:37

Friday, Nov 21, 2003 at 17:37
Hi Jeff,
Have just fitted OME springs,shocks and steering damper to my disco 2 and has made a big improvement to the ride and handling.The kit raises the vehicle by 2 inches as well as firming up the ride.(firm but certainly not uncomfortable)
OME are very good value for money.
cheers mark
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Follow Up By: marcus - Sunday, Nov 23, 2003 at 21:41

Sunday, Nov 23, 2003 at 21:41
BTW
My general ride was quite good on standard suspension until i fitted an arb steel bull bar.I am told that these weigh around 60kg and once fitted i noticed the ride was a bit harsh often bottoming out on the front end over pot holes etc.No such problem with the OME suspension.
mark
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Reply By: Jeff-QLD - Saturday, Nov 22, 2003 at 05:17

Saturday, Nov 22, 2003 at 05:17
Thanks for the replies. I was particularly after the " I did this and this happened" kind of reply so thanks especially to Marcus and Allen.

I checked out ARB and King Springs. King are very good but if they don't stock a spring you have to be able to tell them exactly what you want.

I have had a lot of experience with modifying road cars, I just didn't want to dive into the deep end of something I don't have experience with.

Thanks.
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Reply By: Slunnie - Saturday, Nov 22, 2003 at 23:58

Saturday, Nov 22, 2003 at 23:58
Jeff the other thing that may be worth checking is the ride height, especially on the front if you have a bar. The Discos are set up pretty soft in the springs and so they can be made to sag easily. The harshness can come as a result of the axles hitting the bumpstops because they are so close. It seems that the Bilstein shock is pretty popular with the Discos, though so are OME kits. I have run the King kit which also gives a good ride. If you want to fix it right up, the easiest way is an OME kit.
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Follow Up By: Jeff-QLD - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 18:55

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 18:55
I'm starting to think OME is the go.

But on the other hand, I'm leaning toward the Explorer for interior room.
I think all it needs is some better controlling shocks, probably Koni.
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Reply By: pathfinder - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 09:09

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 09:09
Bilsteins break at the eye-tube point in the rough stuff (corrugations); OMEs and Konis generally don't...
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Follow Up By: Jeff-QLD - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 18:57

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 18:57
Yeah, I think I read that somewhere.

This beastie isn't going to be used for real rough stuff.
Famous last words, eh?
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