Solar Control

I have 150amp hr. of battery mounted on the draw bar of my caravan and when the caravan is not in use I have a small solar panel to keep the battery in a charged state. My question is, do I require a solar panel control to stop the battery being over charged?
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Reply By: Rod - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 07:40

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 07:40
How many watts is the panel ?
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 08:07

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 08:07
Ray, as Rod asks. A panel up to about 15 watts won't deliver more than an amp so should not require a controller to prevent overcharging. Anything much less than 10W is probably a bit small to bother with for a 150 Ah battery.

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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 09:57

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 09:57
Hi John,

I hope you don't do this with your new batteries :>

Seriously, even a 15W panel can over-charge a VRLA battery, gels are particularly sensitive to this. One amp can push up the battery voltage beyond 15V easily. I estimate that up to 1 gram of electrolyte is lost that way on a daily basis. On a VRLA battery of this size you can affort to lose just 200~300 grams of electrolyte over the course of its useful life....

A solar regulator is mandatory to preserve battey life.
It should be set to the float voltage level of 13.8V in Winter and 13.6V in Summer.

cheers, Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 11:19

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 11:19
Peter,

I'll bow to your greater experience. In my experience a small panel capable of less than an amp doesn't manage to push the voltage up enough on a 100Ah battery to cause a drama. Admittedly my experience doesn't stretch to gels and brand new batteries (until now!)

The two I got from you are great and will get all possible TLC.

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John

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Follow Up By: Battery Value Pty Ltd - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 12:01

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 12:01
Hi John,

reasons why you haven't seen this high voltage at small charging currents are:
Ageing AGM batteries have a higher steady state current compared to new ones.
Battery temperature has a similar effect.
And last but not least, the battery probably wasn't really fully charged when you thought it was when observing the voltage rise.
As long as there's some lead sulphate to be converted back to lead and acid, the terminal voltage won't rise much. Only if all of it has been converted (battery 100% charged), then you can observe this effect.
I've run tests on a number of different brand new AGM batteries, and the terminal voltage can be pushed up to 17V with relatively low charging currents (3~5A).
You can hear it gassing :)

cheers, Peter
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Reply By: Ray - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 11:14

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 11:14
My battery is an AGM battery and my solar panel supplies 10 watt
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 11:31

Thursday, May 26, 2011 at 11:31
Ray,

Your 10W panel will supply a maximum of about 0.6 amps from strong sunlight when optimally aligned with the sun. While I respect Peter's judgement, I think the the need for a controller is pretty borderline with your big battery.

Suggest charge the battery fully, then connect the panel directly and monitor the voltage at the terminals. After everything has stabilised, if the voltage rises above the limits suggested by Peter, then you DO need a controller.

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