100 series landcruiser injector feed pipes

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:02
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My 100 series is coming up for it's 100k service which recommends replacing the injector feed tubes (an expensive exercise) any thoughts on the criticality of this Toyota recommendation?
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Reply By: stevieaus - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:17

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:17
i don't know a single toyota dealer that has ever changed these pipes as part of the service, i am aware of it in the service book but it never gets done.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:31

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:31
Ours were because our mechanic cares.

Phil
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Reply By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:29

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:29
Yep

Careful with not doing what the book says. You are endangering any warranty that you have.

Phil
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:48

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:48
There is no warranty at 150,000 kms.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:41

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:41
I only said that in case Steve had arranged some extended type of warranty.

True, that's normally the case but you cannot assume its always the case.

Phil
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Reply By: Crusader - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:37

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:37
Hi,
My manual lists the injector pipes as a 150 k interval. The injector lines were replaced in my 2001 100 Series at the 150 K service (for the previous owner) by John Cole Toyota in Atherton in FNQ.

They still had parts stickers on when I bought the vehicle and I discussed the wisdom or otherwise of having it done with the Service Department at the time. They were understandably coy about passing judgement on the necessity and really only said "it's in the manual and if it is to be maintained as per the manufacturers recommendation it should be done".

Now as to the actual need to have it done I have no idea :) but mine were and I'm OK with that.

Perhaps have a talk to an independent Diesel injection specialist and see what their opinion is.

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Follow Up By: Stevie Mac - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:19

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:19
Thanks Lindsay and others who replied, I made an error my vehicle is at the 150k mark not 100k as I indicated. I will talk to a few diesel techs and seek there direction as I am led to believe the pipes are around the $100 plus ticket plus installation, an expensive exercise if not critical.
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Follow Up By: Stevie Mac - Friday, Jun 24, 2011 at 17:09

Friday, Jun 24, 2011 at 17:09
I have now talked to a couple of Toyota service workshops and a diesel fuel system technician and they have all said to leave well enough alone unless there is sign of wear especially under the retaining brackets, at this stage I will watch it and see how they go as there is no sign of wear or scaling on the pipes. Thanks for the feed back.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:40

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:40
They don't need replacing typically. I had my injectors replaced and they were able to re-use my injector lines. A reputable Toyota dealer would have no problem with this.
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Follow Up By: Member - maccax7 - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:06

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 17:06
Yea, it is 150,000. The sticker on the engine states that also. I have spoken to 2 independent workshop owners who both own cruisers themselves. 1 said to replace them the other said not to worry. I now don't know either and mine has 130,000 on it.
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Follow Up By: Crusader - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 20:38

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 20:38
Out of interest - what do they cost to replace ?

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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 20:45

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 20:45
Do not replace them unless inspection dictates otherwise. I have done 50,000 kms after replacing injectors and reusing lines
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Follow Up By: Member - geelong gypsies - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 23:46

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2011 at 23:46
I had the 150k service done on mine just before we left on our trip. The Toyota service people asked me if I wanted them done as they weren't typically done.
I said that they must be in the book for a reason (apart from making money of course) and me not being particularly mechanically inclined for peace of mind I'd like them done.
Pipes were around $110 each. I still have the receipt in the car, I'll get it out tomorrow.
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Follow Up By: Stevie Mac - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:22

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:22
Thanks guys I will talk with some diesel techs from both within the toyota network and an independant workshop and give you their response.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 09:06

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 09:06
Crusader,
I have had to replace my injector pipes on the 80 TD and they cost just under $100 each. They needed replacing due to abrasion wear on the under side where they go through the clamps on top of the engine.
They would more than likely be dearer on the 100 series unless it is a 1HZ motor.

I have rarely heard of people changing the injector pipes as a routine service.
As time goes by the pipes do become more brittle but I would imagine not at 100 thou kilometres.

Our old Mazda 1972 E4100 only had one changed about 20 years ago and it is still going strong.

On the other hand if Toyota recommend it they probably know something the rest of us don't.

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Reply By: snoopyone - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:36

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:36
Didnt do mine at 150,000 BUT DO THE TIMING BELT.

Toyota said they dont do very many so dont worry.

If it aint broke dont fix it.

I think it a preventitive thing for vibration damage and as mine spent 99.9% of time on tarseal it wouldnt have been subjected to wear like an off road travelled vehicle
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Reply By: fisho64 - Friday, Jun 24, 2011 at 21:22

Friday, Jun 24, 2011 at 21:22
when mine came up I was a little suprized being a marine engineer. I have never seen a scheculed injector line change before.
Anyway local Toyota mob said Toyota no longer recommend they be done at 150K.

On top of that you are more likely to get a leak changing them than leaving them and as they go inside the tappet cover a leak from the apprentice with the hangover would cause catastrophic fuel dilution.

They wont go brittle, steel doesnt work harden like copper and stainless steel.
Chafing and cracking from loose or over tight clamping is usually the cause of failure.

Replace your timing belt tensioner though, its the expensive bit. New belt is a hour job-easy as it doesnt go round the crankshaft, different to the 2L and 3L.
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