What are some reliable older 4x4s to tow 16.6ft caravan?

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 18:43
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Hello all,

We've just purchased our first caravan and are now in the market for a reliable 4x4 to tow it. We are looking for something turbo diesel for around $10,000.
The van is 16.6 ft poptop with electric breaks, it will weigh about 1800kg fully loaded.

We will be taking it on a trip around Australia on mostly sealed roads.

Any suggestions or warnings about avoiding certain models would be appreciated. :D
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Reply By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:10

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:10
G'day Blueteddy

Probably the most common T/D at that price would be the Jackaroo .. damn fine car, but terribly UNRELIABLE motor.

I own one, 1999 model, 4JX1 motor.. goes great but you never really know if you are going to get home.

Having said that, I have 220k on mine, I have owned it 2.5 yrs, and have had 1 injector and 1 sensor replaced in that time, so not really expensive, or a 'bad run'. It's just the reputation they have, based on documented history, that makes you feel a little uncomfortable about being a long way from nowhere.

It is the fuel delivery system that is the problem.

Happy hunting, Dave

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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 00:58

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 00:58
Hi Dave,

We have the 2001 TD Jack and just received a recall notice - it covers your model as well. It is some issue with the engine wiring loom earthing.Check with your holden dealer for detials.

Cheers

Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:42

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:42
G'day Pete

Thanks for the reminder. I got that letter in the mail, but had forgotten about it!

Been so busy with medical problem (getting ready for bypass surgery), that nearly everything else has taken a back seat. Better see if I can get that out of the way before the hospital thing. Don't want to leave anything unfinished before they cut me in half ... lol

Cheers, Dave

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 18:05

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 18:05
Hope everything goes well Dave.
Regards Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 18:11

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 18:11
Thanks Pete, nice of you to wish me well. Pretty routine these days, but a bit scary when it's you looking down the barrel ...lol
Thanks, Dave

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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 19:15

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 19:15
Well I can relate to you Dave, as I am getting short of breath, and some central cheat pain. Have been on the treadmill twice, with reasonable results , but is steady getting worse.
And you are right of course it is scary when its you. Keep us informed
Regards Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 19:50

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 19:50
Thanks Pete, will keep you informed. Didn't mean to hijack the thread, so will mm you any developments.

Sounds like you better look after yourself, too.

Thanks again, Dave

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Reply By: Witi Repartee - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:33

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:33
I have recently spent 2 years driving around the block...including up and down the middle in a 1989 GQ Patrol towing a small 1989 16 foot tandem Viscount Seabreeze poptop tare around 1500kg...(heavier at times!!) We covered 45,000 km and had to replace an alternator after 25,000km. Other expenditure was on a battery and oil changes.I was religious about the oil and filters...for obvious reasons.
We got more and more adventurous as our confidence grew and had lots of good times on the gravel in the outback. The 4.2 diesel patrol of this vintage is not fast or powerful but very reliable. Good luck and enjoy.

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Follow Up By: Witi Repartee - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:40

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:40
Oops...just reread your question....ours wasn't turboed. Wish it was!
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Follow Up By: gqturbo - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:41

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:41
agree with Witi nissan patrol gq 4.2 diesel with turbo very reliable
Brian H
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Reply By: Axle - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:36

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:36
G/Day Mate, A absolute lucky dip in that price range lol...IMHO...Pajero turbo diesel, ,,, Landrover Defenderor Disco one 98models 300tdi, on saying that my brother just picked up a 60s Toyota with a genuine 160ks indicated on it,There out there but you have to be really careful in obtaining something capable of doing a trip of that nature, ...luck be with you


Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Madfisher - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:58

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:58
Mate , why buy a $10000 TD, thats just waiting to have $10000 spent on it. What you save on fuel , you will spend three times on repairs. The only two I can recomend would be the 2.8 Paj and the older Jackaroo 3.1 td. This is not the motor my mate Brian is talking of. Some of the 3.1 have recorded 650000ks. I wish I had one. They where made between 92 and 97. Injectors are only a couple of hundred ea as against $1000 for common rail motors.
I have seen a few of theses still floating around with 200000ks, but still get a good mechanic to check it over.
The tow capacity is 2500kg.
Personally I would be looking at a 3.5 v6 petrol, powerfull and very long lived if serviced. Get a man if economy is importent/
The other option if you are hell bent on diesel is an normally aspirated 4.2 diesel, bit slow but a genuine million k motor if looked after. My uncle is a retired mechanic is this is the rig he has just brought, with an after market turbo on it.
Good luck Pete
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:02

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:02
Gee an edit function would be handy. The 4.2 above I was refering to was the GQ Patrol. Cruiser 1HZ are not happy being turboed.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:21

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:21
Sorry madfisher but I disagree with the statement about the 1hz not being happy with aftermarkey turbo. Several of my mates, including myself have gone down this path and use these vehicle predominately off road. No option when living in remote areas! The crucial aspect is how the turbo is set up initially. Open it right up and drive like a racing car driver and get ready with the wallet! Set up on a dyno with a mild boost and driven at "normal" speeds then you can expect a very good and reliable vehicle. Regular servicing is mandatory as well. Naturally.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 18:04

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 18:04
I agree with what you are saying,but the fact remains the TD42 was designed to take a turbo from the beginning , in fact it was detuned for Australia where as Toyota never designed the 1hz to take a turbo, and never recommended it. But they are a great donk if not overstressed. My mates has close to 500000ks up and still going well, but choose to go extractors and snorke route.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: landseka - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:41

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:41
Hi Blue, if you are "mainly on sealed roads" why do you need to buy a 4x4?

You do not NEED a 4x4 to tow a caravan!

I, and many others have done 000's kms with caravans behind a family sedan. I had a 22' Millard old style tandem, 2 door heavy van and my XB Fairmont towed it admirably.

It is a fallacy that you need a 4x4 to go caravanning unless you want to do beaches etc as well.

Cheers Neil
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 21:17

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 21:17
Falcon station wagons with the leaf rear springs and long wheelbase make good tow vehicles. Fit a good lsd and heavy duty radiator and auto cooler and you are away for less then $10000. AU 111 are only bringing $5000 tom $7000.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: ss--ss - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:52

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 20:52
Gday , for 10grand you wont get anything worthwhile. I would spend a bit more & go for a lc 80 series petrol or diesel. Also could get a ford territory around 05 model for mid $teens which would tow your van just fine..
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Follow Up By: Witi Repartee - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 21:48

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 21:48
Our 4.2 Safari SWB Patrol (24v) cost $7000. Was very tidy and owner had receipts for sevices etc..but he had not needed to do anything major. 210,000km on clock. As mentioned in reply near top of thread we did 45,000 km with no problems. I still have it and use it daily to go to work.....am planning on doing Great Central Highway in it later this year. You don't need to spend megabucks.....get it inspected by a reputable diesel outfit.
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Follow Up By: Dave... Adelaide (SA - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 00:08

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 00:08
SS--SS
Are you for real???...A FORD TERRITORY !!..???....he would need a Ten Grand bank account for all the probs that go wrong with those pieces of crap, mate l wouldn't have one if ya gave it to me..!!!
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 01:38

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 01:38
They seem to be awfully popular for a "piece of crap"???
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Reply By: turps2 - Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 21:31

Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 21:31
Cruiser or Patrol 4.2 diesel, well serviced, don't buy any with more than 750,000 K's. Enjoy the trips
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Follow Up By: becboo68 - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:22

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:22
yep I agree. I saw a beautiful old 60 series pulling a nice new caravan go through Rollingstone yesterday. In excellent condition.
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