Submitted: Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 23:46
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About to decide on an ARB bull-bar & winch for the NT Pajero. Does anybody have personal (your own) expereince with either TIGERZ11 or Mako KDS9 winches (with Dyneema rope) and their suitabuility for an ARB steel bar. I know the recent results of 4WD mag tests - but I am looking for personal, on the road experiences please. Also where the recent best prices on the winches might be. Thanks for your comments.

Gordon T.
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Reply By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:03

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:03
Ask about warranty and local back up service. When my Tigers11 winch which was less than a year old died , I was told I'd have to ship it to and from Melbourne at my expense to have it looked at.
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Reply By: Bigfish - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:14

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:14
Currently have a 12000 lb Tigerz winch on troop carrier. Used it last weekend to pull car and boat out of swamp track in the NT here. Performed well. The rope is very strong and the whole winch is less than half the weight of the warn 12000 (which I replaced with the Tigerz). Only used twice now (12 months old) but I,m happy about that! Bought mine online for about $800.00 deliverd. Ended up costing $250 for delivery!!! Lucky I didnt have to pay and I think dealer has revised his free shipping policy for remote areas. So far no problems.
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Reply By: patsproule - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:40

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:40
Is it a diesel? If so, by the time you add the steel bar and the winch it will be over-weight on the front axle. Add dual batteries and it gets worse. It's one of the reasons the cops run the poly bars.

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Follow Up By: Member - Gordon T (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:18

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:18
Thanks Pat & others for replies. Yes, it is diesel & I will be having a suspension upgrade as well & dual batteries !!!! Hence, I like the concept of a lighter weight winch but wonder do I compromise durability? The winch will not be a toy - I will use it only when necessary so hopefully not a lot of uses but of course it must be ready for use when needed.
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Follow Up By: Member - Gordon T (NSW) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:22

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:22
Just another question: I am hearing from some quarters that the Tiger & Mako winches are a "tight fit" befind the ARB bar - I have asked ARB but of course they don't want to acknowledge something they don't sell even though they will still get a b-b out of me.
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:19

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:19
I'll pre-empt my answer by declaring not many people I travel with offroad rely on the cheaper winches for recovery so last weekend I was interested to see how well a brand new Tiigerz in our group would go on an A grade run we did near Jamieson. We all ended up winching nearly 200m in total & the speed of the Tigerz 10000 was impressive although only pulling a short wheel base Jeep. For a brand new winch I felt the rope was too hard to pull out on free wheel so we powered it out mostly. Loved the remote control. Compared to the Warn 9500 Ti it was pretty noisy but what concerned me the most was that after just 40 minutes of intermitant use it started to make loud growling noises when powering out under load. Day 1 & this winch will need to be pulled out & repaired.
So yet again another cheap winch failed on one of my trips after very little use in tough conditions. From my experience I'm yet to be convinced any of these budget winches have got it right yet. I certainly won't be hanging my $35,000 car off the end of one of them just yet!
On the bulll front I'd be inclined to fit an alloy bar to a Pajero. Steel bars add too much weight over the front end of the car particually for small to medium sized vehicles.
Cheers Craig......................
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