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Just wondering when you think Toyota will bring out a new shape again in the utes or wagons
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Reply By: Diesel 'n Dust - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:47

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:47
Nicholas,

By the history of the 75/78/79 series of the 1990's to the 2000's I guess Toyota won't be changing the design of it's current in a hurry.

And if sales are high and if rumours are true about the new Nissan Patrol again Toyota will not change the design.

Why?? Don't you like the current design??

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Follow Up By: Rip64 - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:52

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:52
Hi Matthew, what are the rumours about the new patrol ?? A mate just got one two days ago and is so far pretty happy with it.
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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:56

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:56
Hi Matthew no i love them i bought a o6 rv ute just months before they brought out the new shape still have it wife has a 100 series wagon want to sell and buy the new v8 ute with the airbags just dont want to buy then in 1 year the shape is changed again
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Follow Up By: Diesel 'n Dust - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:11

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:11
Rip64,

Read thread 87054.

Nicholas,

We have the same Ute but I got mine (second hand) after the V8 came out. I prefer the old oil burner!
Apart from the shortage of Cruisers due to what happened in Japan the mining firms are desperate for the airbag model so demand is high for them.

I'll say this though - I heard that some people on the mine site ( people who don't care about the LV ) are trashing these like rear Diffs sound noisy and really rough driving!!

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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:21

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:21
I have spent alot of time in the mines Matthew people dont care about vehicles your right.I have a few mates with the new airbag shape no problems with Diffs a bit of oil usage but i think toyota has fixed this up considerably but my HDJ never uses oil but i like the new shape ,airbags awesome and a new v8 motor beautiful.Just was interested to see if they were going to change anything at all sounds like they already have with the airbags looks different inside see what they do over the next year might be time to buy one i think
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Follow Up By: Great Divide Tours - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:09

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:09
Hi guys
On our trips we meet and have had people with the new V8 diesel having major engine problems when they get some crook fuel (usually water in it) have you or anyone else used any pre filtering devices on the V8 diesel that have worked, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask the question - for what its worth I've not heard of any new shape for the Cruiser ute coming at this stage.
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Follow Up By: Diesel 'n Dust - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:35

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:35
Nicholas,

The field crew at this mine from what I've heard are thrashing them that much, that with the sample bags off drill rigs are at the end of the tray instead on the axle! It looks PAINFUL!! A lot of these people don't own a 4x4.

Some of the station boys are just amazed!

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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 14:07

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 14:07
Wow Matthew thats crazy man poor utes i feel for them
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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 14:10

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 14:10
Sorry Great Divide Tours dont know the answeer to that as i dont have one yet soon though.Thanks for the reply
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Follow Up By: pt_nomad - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 20:32

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 20:32
Vic,
I think Cooma diesel in CBR have developed a water remover.
www.coomadiesel.com.au/images/waterwatch.pdf
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Follow Up By: Great Divide Tours - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 20:57

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 20:57
Thanks Paul, I'll give them a call.
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 13:54

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 13:54
I think (IMHO) the next upgrade to 70 series will be ABS and Stability control. This will in part to meet government regulation. Also might see side curtain airbags.
Other rumour is the 76 wagon is being replaced by a commercial grade 200 series later in the year.
Dunno if the 200 series woule be robust enough to suit the needs of industrial users though.




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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 14:09

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 14:09
Mr Pointyhead Thanks for that bit of information ill wait to see what happens my main concern was that my might change that motor wonder if they will stick with it for the next 10 years
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Follow Up By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 19:35

Sunday, Jun 19, 2011 at 19:35
IMHO it will be a sad day that toyota fit ABS and stability control to an off road vehicle. Have you ever tried to stop on gravel with ABS.

I also have the previous V8 without airbags but with a steel dash. I also wear my seatbelt. Airbags were designed for Americans where there are only two states who have a penalty for not wearing a seatbelt. IMO an accident that is so severe that a seat belt will not save you I would question whether an airbag will be any good.





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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:47
Having heard previously that ABS is a problem on gravel or corrugations - I've always wondered what happens - do they lock up or do they have reduced braking power?
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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 17:49

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 17:49
Serendipity i hope that day never comes when they fit traction control to the utes thats why im getting rid of the 100 series keeping my o6 ute and getting a new 70 series i have that on the hundred series even though i can turn it on and off but yes i hope that day never comes to the utes
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Follow Up By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:11

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:11
Hi Dennis

My mate has ABS brakes on his ford ranger. On a gravel road/track if he wants to stop in a hurry he can't. Put you foot hard on the brakes and they hit a stop (ABS) that prevents you from locking the wheels up.

In gravel to stop sharply you want your wheels to dig into the gravel and grab deeper dirt that will pull you up faster. ABS will prevent that from happening. Consequently you will sail straight into that kangaroo, or rear end of you mate who has pulled up suddenly just around a corner, or even if you are on a muddy track and start to slide your vehicle ABS will prevent you from applying the brakes harder and digging in instead you will keep rolling into that tree on the side of the track.

ABS was designed for people who have limited control over their cars on bitumen - and should be kept for those type of cars. For me on bitumen if I start skidding / aquaplaning - I know to take off the brakes and apply again - and in this pumping method you will stop the aquaplaning and be able to stop.

ABS really is not for vehicles that travel off the bitumen. It is dangerous. And of course if you had an accident and you have disabled the ABS you would not get full insurance.

I haven't even started on traction control or airbags.

All my opinion and others are welcome to disagree -but I would contend they do not really travel off road.

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Reply By: Ray - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:08

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:08
I worked in mines for many years. Not the open cut type but real mines underground with shafts and declines where modified road vehicles go.
What the underground miners require in a vehicle is reliability and basic construction. As anyone with any brains will know petrol powered vehicle are not allowed to be taken underground. What is required is a vehicle that can be fixed with a hammer and a shifter. None of this common rail stuff, air bags or ABS. I believe that the vehicle manufacturers are getting too technical for the average bloke or isolated mine sites.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:48

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:48
Ray, there is a Toyota 70 series that's bought in for the mines but can't be regoed.

It has the current 70 series body less bonnet scoop and a 1HZ diesel motor.

Nearly identical to the 1990 on models.
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Follow Up By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:16

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:16
That sounds like the new 70 series they released in Africa. Looks like the new V8 model but with the old 6 cylinder and no bonnet scoop.

Can't see why they wouldn't be licensed here.





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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:33

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:33
Don't meet emission standards.

Hence why they dropped the 1HZ and 1HD family of motors.
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Reply By: ozjohn0 - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:05

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:05
If Toyota ever release the 'Tundra' here, I'll be first to place an order.
The Yanks love em. They're a big pick up ute with all the LC200 running gear etc. and the V8 Diesel with a 5.7 V8 petrol option.
Not likely to happen though.
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Follow Up By: nicholas h - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:22

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:22
OzJohno

Mate i live 6 months ayear in the philippines im very seriously thinkiong of getting one imported from america to the philippines they are very nice
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:40

Monday, Jun 20, 2011 at 21:40
Hate to tell you John.... the Tundra doesn't come with a diesel option.

Only 3.4lt, 4lt, 4.6lt, 4.7lt and 5.7lt petrols.
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