yamaha ef1000is gen to run caravan

Submitted: Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 18:42
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hi all
just wondering if any one out there has a yamaha ef1000is gen to run there caravan of, i would like to know if it is big enough to do the job.
thank you.
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Reply By: Russell [Pajero] - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:27

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:27
Its all a matter of Mathematics, what do you want to run in the van, does the generator's out put exceed your needs.

Add up the individual power needs for each unit:

Light globes can be replace by fluro globes (more expensive but draw less power) the fridge, electric kettle, microwave etc all have to be included. The big items like heaters and airconditioners would be well outside the capabilities of a small 1000 generator.

Its pencil and paper time I'm afraid and you will need to find the compliance plates or instruction books for each electrical item in your list.

RTA

Russell
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Reply By: Old Soldier - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:33

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:33
G'day Thomo,

I presume like the Honda eu10i that it is 1KVA.

My Honda will run my van [a bit at a time :) :) ]

It has no problems running the fridge and lights, but if you wanted to do more, like run a small microwave, something would have to be switched off.

Obviously any of the heavier appliances would be beyond it's capabilities, but the 1KVa will quite happily give you light and power for your fridge, and really, that is all you need if you have gas for your cooking.

a 2KVA would be better.

enjoy the bush

DennisN

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Reply By: thomo - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:37

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:37
van that ive got has its own battery all lights are 12 and 240 volt fridge is 12 volt only things that are 240 only are microwave and small heater, no aircon.just thoght someone might have one of these generators for the same reason.
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Reply By: thomo - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:48

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 19:48
hi old soldier
in the yamaha catalogue it says the ef1000is is max 1kva,im buying one this week but not sure if i should get this one or the next size up which is 2.8 max kva.only problem is the smaller one looks like the honda nice and small but the bigger one is a pretty big thing in a frame.
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Reply By: bob - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 20:09

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 20:09
Thomo, have a look at the honda eu20i model. It is a 2kVa gen set, but weighs only 21 kg so it is still very portable. It costs a little more than the 1 Kva model at just under $2000, but is a lot more flexible in terms of powering equipment. Its is still as quiet as the 1 kva models
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Reply By: thomo - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 20:22

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 20:22
thats the one i wanted, but the dealer im getting mine thru is a honda and yamaha bike dealer and for some reason he dosent want to sell me the honda,dont know why.
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Follow Up By: Old Soldier - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 23:48

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 23:48
G'day again Thomo,

Talk to the "Honda Shop" in Perth.

http://www.hondashop.com.au/index.php?Honda=52c1e74d6240209c045e4ea26c993f26

they can usually provide the best deal on Honda in Oz.

I live in Qld and they supplied my eu10i cheaper than I could get it in Qld

it won't hurt to compare.

As much as I love my eu10i, if I was buying again i would buy a 2kva

enjoy your decision

DennisN
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:37

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:37
Someone mentioned they had a yami 1kva and couldnt get spares for it previuosly, better run a check in the archives
Andrew
Ps what about inverter and that christie generator in the for sales section?
Awheredayathinkwer mike?
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Reply By: Member - JohnR - Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:54

Monday, Nov 24, 2003 at 22:54
Thomo, you are getting pushed towards a Honda rather than a Yamaha. I have had motors by both manufacturers in stationary engines and in bikes - read ATVs or quads. Honda engines are survivors believe me. Low oil, lack of service they kept going :) This experience has not been with generators though but the parallels are there.

I won't comment on specifics as to problems as to machines but have experience with both and come back to Honda reliability every time. Pity my sons purchases with the last two bikes were not Hondas, the next will be. They are well recognised in the rural community for their motors.
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Follow Up By: William - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 15:10

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 15:10
We have a property and will not buy Honda motorbikes
Honda have the shortest lived engines of all the Japanese brands and the most expensive parts
We have had Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda and Vanguard stationary engines over the years and the Suzuki have always lasted the longest. None have been bad.
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Follow Up By: David N. - Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 13:18

Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 13:18
Agree, William
Funny how different people have different opinions...
My brother in law buys a new Quad for his large.... and steep ... sheep property regularly. He's had nothing but trouble with Hondas and now buys Yamaha every time. Same story... reliability and parts prices......
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Reply By: thomo - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:37

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:37
i raced yamaha dirt bikes and road bikes for years and have never had any problems with them,and a friend is a yamaha mechanic this is why i would rather one but the 1kva is a bit small and the next size up is a bit big size wise but the honda 2kva seems to be a good size and a friends dad bought one and seems to be happy with it.
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Reply By: David N. - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 12:31

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 12:31
Two friends have the new Yamaha 1,000 watt inverter- both are very very happy indeed.
One dealer said Yamaha had a long look at the Honda, found it's faults and made theirs better- whether that is "dealer speak" or not I have no idea.

As to wattage- the 1,000 watt would be enough for most of us, but would not run aircon. Bear in mind 1,000 watts is max. But you would be unlikely to need more than 800 watts without an airconditioner running.
It's actually bad to have a generator which is too big, as long hours at very low power causes glazing of the bore- a known problem with the Honda- and probably ANY motor.
(Have heard of a few of the Hondas with that problem and it's not necessarily covered by warranty....- very very expensive to fix!)
Hope this helps.
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Reply By: William - Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 15:07

Tuesday, Nov 25, 2003 at 15:07
I have just bought a new Yamaha inverter as the Honda EU10i was to expensive to repair
The inverter went and they wanted $1200 to fix it
I use solar panels mainly but have the generator for emergency and does not get used much. I tried it twice for 2 weekends with friends and the Yamaha is as quiet as the Honda and started easier. The Yamaha looks a fine piece of engineering. I priced parts for the Yamaha against the Honda and the Yamaha parts were much cheaper. If the Yamaha inverter goes it is only $280 against $1200 for the Honda. That made up my mind quickly. Yamaha is a well respected name and did not hesitate to buy a Yamaha as I have had great service from their outboard motors.
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Reply By: Flash - Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 16:24

Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 16:24
Yeh, G'day thomo
had a Honda and had two probs...
firstly glazed cylinders as mentioned above and then many dollars and some months later the inverter died. Cost to repair was nearly more than new- not happy Jan! I guess it ran about three hundred hours total time approx.
Asked around, priced some spares, and went with a new Yamaha inverter.
It has now run probably a hundred hours and can't fault it. Nice engineering and IMHO better than the Honda- time will tell. But, I know it's cheaper to repair if ever I need to.

1,000 watts is heaps- I often also feed a lead to my neighbours. As long as you don't try to run more than common sense dictates.
I CAN run my SMALL microwave if I turn all else off bar maybe a flouro. (It's rated input power is 1,000watts!!)
Don't get anything too big- it's more dollars and more weight and more bulk than you need plus it's true they need to do a fair amount of work. Run 'em too long on low power and you'll have probs (glazed cylinders)- I know!
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Reply By: thomo - Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 16:38

Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 16:38
thanks flash thats exactly what i wanted to know.
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Follow Up By: thomo - Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 16:41

Wednesday, Nov 26, 2003 at 16:41
i rang the caravan company i got mine of, he said to get the 2kva.
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