Truck Tyre Repair kit Reccomendation

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 09:47
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Don't you love when you finally find and get your hands on just the right product.

Been looking for a serious Patch based repair kit to complement our ARB plug
based kit, and they seem hard to find with decent size patches.

Came across this Lion Product, product code LA515B recently which is meant
for Tractors & Trucks.

This compact package includes 4 patches specifically for Tyres, 19 patches
the smallest being 50mm diameter and 4 at a huge 170mm X 80mm.
Even has some baby patches they don't bother to list.

Another smart inclusion is that the glue is not in one tube but in 3
decent sized tubes cause we all know that once opened there usually no good
a year later when you need to use again.

Finding a product is one thing, getting is another , not a single regular auto store handles it , but I go to a great little place in Hallam Victoria called Watco (9703-2080) that sells all your Narva/Projecta stuff at very good prices.

The product is rare and retails around $60.
They will have to order it in but the price will start with a 4 unless you say Robin Miller told you in which case they may add on 10%.


Link

http://www.lion.net.au/TYRE_REPAIR_KITS__PATCHES.html
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Reply By: Tim Owen - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 10:35

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 10:35
Thanks for the recommendation. A google search of the brand and product code reveals one online retailer selling the kit for $44.95 if anyone is interested.
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Follow Up By: workhorse - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:31

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:31
I wonder if you have the link to this retailer thanks.
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Follow Up By: Tim Owen - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 14:00

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 14:00
Google Lion LA515B

http://www.gondwanaonline.com.au/prod586.htm
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Reply By: Doomadgee Roadhouse - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:50

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:50
Hi Robin, have you had a look at some of the stuff "slime" bring out, they have a web site ...... i saw some patch kits a while ago and they where really good ..
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:43

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:43
Hi Joe

No I haven't looked at them from a patch point of view - I have looked at the Slime and I didn't think it would work for 4wding as I wondered if it would last with repeated tyre pressure changes - I thought it might stuff the valves but have no real experience with the actual Slime.

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Follow Up By: Doomadgee Roadhouse - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:14

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:14
The "Slime" product is there main line i would assume, if you have a look at the side bar you will find "car care", it has a few patches in there range, some very nice "string" kits to by the look of it to (i want some) ..... i rang them just before to see where i can get some of the kits, Repco stock them ....
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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:56

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:56
Hi Robin
I looked at the site and there is a patch that they don't seem to have.
I bought mine from a tyre repair place locally.
For tubeless tyres, more for a permanent fix for plugged tyres.
The patch sticks to the inside of the tyre.
It has a thin stainless rod attached to push through the puncture from the inside the pull through with pliers.
It plugs the hole and is the snipped of flush.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:46

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:46
Hi Pinko

Yes , my main mission was temporay repaires of tears up to 6 inches long.

I found another place that seemed to have some better industrial grade products but no convienent kit like this one.

This link is worth a look , I think it shows what you refer to.

http://www.itsindustrial.com.au/page22.html
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:28

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:28
This is a dumb question but can you apply a patch to a tear by just breaking the bead and not removing the tyre from the rim?

The reason I ask is because I think if push came to shove I could unseat a bead by driving over the tyre, but taking a tyre off the rim without hydraulically operated equipment is rapidly becoming less feasible as I rapidly turn into an old fart.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:43

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:43
Hello Bob

Yes you can with a couple of proviso's, but first I have seen wheels flick up and cause damage with that approach and the approach of using car jacks also so I'd check out a beadbreaker system first and check it works.
(use a homemade tyrepliers type here)

When you break the bead and lift tyre off on the outside its still hard to work and usually ends up with scuffed knuckles so you need to jam something in so you can get to the surface of tyre.

A very important thing to do is throughly clean the wound (I use petrol) then scuff it and clean again else glue won't stick on inside of tyre.

P.S. If push really comes to shove you can place a patch on outside of tyre , and while far less desirable its a reason I wanted really big patches which distributes the pull off forces.

Either way if its a real nasty tear we use that other indispensible repair aid shoegoo to fill holes , missing bits etc first.




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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 14:33

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 14:33
Thanks Robin
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Follow Up By: the redbacks - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:08

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:08
Robin,
the last thing to use on a tyre to "clean" the surface is petrol ? petrolium based? try going to a tyre outlet and ask for "liquid buffer" that cleans the tyre & tube if using a tube, the best {and only} tyre repair kit is from "Tip-Top" tyre repair products any GOOD tyre service will have them patches ie; radial, tube, side wall, plus glue for tyre & glue for inner tubes, patches for either {they are different}, only one way to fix a tyre puncture is from the inside with a "mushroom" patch & only the safest

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:41

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:41
Hi Redbacks

We would disagree on Petrol for the cleanup , I well appreciate the potential issues it can have if leave on some forms of rubber, but its the context of what we are trying to do thats important.

At home in the suburbs I wouldn't dream of patching a significant sidewall rip, but when you are out there , sometimes alone and not in the best enviroment you have to do things such that they work , work well and preferrably the first time.
Making it nice comes later when back in civilization.

Its like a lot of these things , we see many posts about any 4wd can go up a track , or this will work as a bead breaker, and 9 times out of ten these half measures work.

A friend once told me his pretty 4wd would go 99.9 % of the places I can at much less cost, but one day we came to that hill , and it was that 0.01 % that was the last 3 meters that he couldn't make and thats where his car stayed and stayed.











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Reply By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 14:30

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 14:30
If you are considering that you may need to do tyre repairs you really should read Mick Hutton's advice here.

A major supplier of tyre repair materials including large patches is Rema Tip-Top here. They do not however market a kit, you need to select the patches and adhesives individually from a vast range. They are the major supplier of tyre repair materials to the tyre repair trade. Mick Hutton can put a kit together for you as he operates 'Adelaide Tyre Repairs' but only during the summer months when he is not out bush with Connie running Beadell Tours.

And to do a proper job of tyre repair it is necessary to remove the tyre from the rim. If you can remove the first bead from the rim it is even easier to release the second bead and take the whole tyre off the rim.

For bead-breaking I find my attachment to the hi-lift jack very effective with no risk of the tyre rolling. It also can be attached to the hydraulic axle jack. Photo below.

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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 16:53

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 16:53
As an impromptu bead breaker I've successfully used my bottle jack under the towbar to break my bead. It was slow but worked.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 17:41

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 17:41
Allan the local Rema branch here does a 4x4 kit that they make up and I'm sure other branches would do the same.

I think from memory it was about the $90.00 mark.
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Follow Up By: the redbacks - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:21

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:21
spot on olcoolone, Rema tip-top, worlds best, as far as a bead breaker ? two larger flat cold chisel's Approx 3" in width and a good club hammer, just go around the top bead first, taking smaller bites, once top bead is broken, turn tyre up other way and follow the same procedure, two tyre leavers {made by Rema} and away you go, repair tyre, bead lube, put tyre on with a rubber hammer small bites at a time, if problem sealing the bead, soak an old newspaper in water, roll up and put between the wheel & bead of tyre 7 inflate, doesn't matter if some paper stays in place.
Ps when removing a tyre, ALWAYS remove the valve core, whether tyre is flat or not.

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