A question for the old bushies
Submitted: Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 20:12
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carlj
Have noticed many old fence posts in my travels in the outback,some fences many
miles long made from split logs.What I want to know is most have holes drilled through the posts for up to three strands of wire how did these Fencers get the barb wire to pull through the holes and stop the barb wire from catching. I can understand plain wire but still it must have been hard work.
Reply By: Robert K3 - Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 21:15
Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 21:15
Still being built as a pretty standard fence in Queensland but now instead of all split posts its usually 1 wood and 3-4 steel posts. The wood posts are much stronger and stable than the the steelposts which livestock will run straight over.
As to the construction method we thump the wood posts in, drill a 1" hole with an Atom Borer on a chainsaw. Usually we have the barb on a frame on the back of a Landcruiser, with a good pair of gloves start pulling, usually you get through the first half dozen posts easily then it gets a little harder. we use a small tractor with a carryall and on one side we have an attachment like wirestrainers which we attach the wire to. Simple task of driving close to the fence with another person threading it through the hole and reattaching to the tractor every post. The top wire is done first so if the barb goes slack it doesn't catch on the wires below.
Once you are experienced at it only takes a few minutes to run a 3-400m section of fence beween strainers.
There you go
Rob
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 19:07
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 19:07
Now you have confused everyone, whats this metric stuff..... every one else is talking foot, mile, chain, yard.... LOL
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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 00:42
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 00:42
You blokes must like makin' life hard for ya-selves (LOL)
When I was doin' it (40-odd yrs ago), we used a length of plain wire..
Simply run the plain thru all the posts, from one strainer to the next.. roll of barb on a spinner, tie the end of barb to the plain, other end of the plain is tied to the ute (or tractor), then simply drive said ute (or tractor) at a steady pace 'till the end of at the barb is at the next strainer.. unhook wire from ute, drive back to where end of barb is (at strainer post), strain 'er up, then run the plain back down the line (thru all the posts), & repeat the process...
If the posts were close together, we could run 2 at a time.. easy peasy ;-))
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael and Chris (QL - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 07:06
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 07:06
Ed C
Seems strange how others make a hard job even harder. I use the same method as you making sure that you run the barb from the "bark" side (bark being removed of coarse) as that side is easier to get the barb thru. I have been able to show the kids fences I put up 25 years ago and still in good repair (straight too). I would find it a pain to repair a fence that the barb was tied to the split post. Cheers Mick
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Follow Up By: Bravo 191 - Sunday, Aug 07, 2011 at 18:48
Sunday, Aug 07, 2011 at 18:48
That's the way it was done when I was knee high to a post hole shovel. Holes bored with a drill powered by tractor PTO, a flexible drive cable to a hand held device which had three coned wheels, two small ones on the drive shaft, one driving the drill bit. Two hand grips, choice of which way you twisted them selected clock or anticlockwise rotation.
Then a plain wire through the top hole, brabed wire tied on and pull it through then return the plain wire through the next row of holes. Repeat until finished then strain it all up nice and tight and watch the cranky old guernsey cow try to crawl through.
Tying barbed wire to a fence post with plain wire was for the lazy farmers. We didn't have weekender hobby farmers back then. Did I mention that every post hole was dug with crowbar and shovel regardless of ground type varying from nice sandy loam to more rocks than soil.
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:59
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:59
Well ,you live & learn. I've never seen barb pulled through drilled post holes either.
Must be a Qld thing. Although I dont doubt it is possible I cant help feeling the
process must bend most of the barbs along the axis, therefore defeating the purpose of the barb in the first place. I have only ever tied the barb on the side or top of the posts with a short piece of plain wire..twisted in opposite directions. The barb is run out by tying one end to a strainer ..placing coil on a wire spinner & driving a vehicle the length of the strain, the barb unrolling as you go.
If you happen to lose the end it can recoil a long way & you have a tangle. The same can occur with pre fab hinge joint fencing too. The worst part is I am still fencing
... been at it , on & off, for 50 years....but so has anyone with acreage.......oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: carlj - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:14
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:14
Thanks to all, no matter how it is done it appears to be one of those jobs that has to be done but nobody wants to.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Aug 01, 2011 at 15:07
Monday, Aug 01, 2011 at 15:07
Not just Qld, Oldbaz.
Take a drive along
Putty road, and through Howes Valley, there plenty of "barb - through - posts" fencing. Got me stuffed why they do it, just as easy to
bore smaller holes, and tie the barb onto the post.
Maybe it stops the "poddy-dodgers" getting through the fences easily?
Bob.
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:52
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:52
Like many of the other posters I have built bloody
miles of fences and whilst I always drilled a hole through the posts to attach a tie wire to tie the barb on the outside of the post..........others have not
YES I have seen barb pulled through the holes of the wooden posts. I know a bloke who always did it routinely...and he swore it did not catch in doing so as much as one would have thought ............
and at times I have looked at his jobs and the barb did not appear to have been bent ot distorted in the process of pulling throgh as much as one woud think
Not a common practise but yes it does happen despite all the other experts saying it does not
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Reply By: Fred G NSW - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:53
Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:53
Nothing like a mob of old farts reminising.......
Absolutely.
I am 63 and still bear the scars of where I put the old mans crowbar through my left big toe when I was about 9, while helping him fence LOL.
I used to love driving the old blitz down the line in 1st gear running out the wire, standing up behind the wheel.
I guess most of the old blokes had a method that worked best for them, with the equipment they had available, and they all differed, except those that only used shovels and crowbars and hand auger drills.
Great "POST" LOL carlj. Thanks all for reviving a few old memories.
Fred.
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