Use Hi Lift Jack on HZJ-105

hi lifts should never be used for changing wheels - beginners mistake

ive changed wheels everywere rom underground declines to the middle of nowhere exploration non tracks with a factory tojo jack

no webbing about a hub lifter - they do just that - fit over the hub if youve used both you would know there is no further discussion

Getoutmore, are you telling me or Chris that a Hi-lift should not be used to change wheels? I have already said that twice.

I used the term "Hub Lifter" loosely as I could not remember the real name of the accessory I had in mind. It is in fact called a "Lift Mate" by ARB and heres a picture for the children that have not seen or used one...... Getoutmore?
And yes, I have used a hub lifter..... belonged to a mate!

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Whilst these are intended to hook into the wheel rim they can also serve to lift under a bumper or bullbar where there is no viable jack-point.

the ones I have and use slip over the hub and lift the hub directly up

used them for hangups and bogs never tyre changing

I do have jacking points on my bumpers and just thought I would try them to see what happens

what happens is even a standard hight 80 (a 105 would be simular)

for starters your starting off much higher on the jack just to reach the bumper. Then by the time youve taken off all the upwards travel of the suspension which is at least 30cm your working on the top 25% of the jack and the wheel isnt actually lifted yet so b the time the wheel is lifted things are pretty unstable for the intention of changing a wheel. definitly not recomended

Well you can get the wheel off alright that way with the strap/hooks on the wheel (although there is a hell of a thump) but getting the wheel back onto the hub is really hard! LOL Only joking!

But seriously, you lose about 150 to 200mm of lift with the hook/strap under the bumper.
In any case, it is dangerous to be removing a wheel with the vehicle supported by a high-lift jack from any lifting point. They are simply not stable enough.

What is wrong with a bottle or hydraulic jack under the axle?

Well I guess there is nothing wrong with a bottle or hydraulic jack under the axle in most situations.

But when driving through deep mud it sometimes is impossible to get under the front axle.

Kind regards,
Chris

OK Chris, have you considered an Exhaust-bag Jack?

as mentioned the factory jack with a bottom plate will do fine if you need a high lift jack to change a tyre it will end in tears anyway