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I was at the local GM dealer a couple of days ago when I struck up a conversation with a spare parts guy. Well first he says what do those oil filters you ordered fit, I then explain that they are for a 6.5l chev diesel and I can buy them genuine for a lot less than aftermarket ($36 for 4 of them) hell I just paid $60 for a genuine Tojo fuel filter.

Well to get to the story I says, how are those Great Walls your dealership is selling.

He says and quote "they are going great as far as he could see, very little problems and no majors since they were introduced approx 3 years age." He then goes on to say that a relative who is tied up in the motor trade visited the Cherry and Great wall plants overseas. His reaction was that the Great Wall plant was run very, very well with happy workers but the Cherry plant was not so hot.

Had a mate drive a Great wall a couple of hundred K's for a neighbour and his impression was that it behaved well and he quiet liked it.

The reason I have posted this and I couldn't care less about Great Walls is that I have an old 1999 2 door very fast and wait for it Hyundai Excel that so far has cost me one intake temperature sensor, a inner plastic front mudguard liner caused by an altercation with a small roo. It was cheap and had no resale value but I can still sell it for around $3500 and it's new price was around $11000.

Just food for thought.

Have a good one all,
RA.
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Reply By: Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 17:58

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 17:58
The Chinese should stick to making rick-shaws and dim sims !
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Follow Up By: guzzi - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:08

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:08
MMM,
Is the echo down the time tunnel ringing your ears yet?
Ignore the chinese if you wish, but the fact is ALL of their engineers are western trained (had a look at an australian uni lately?) they buy the best robots, computers and CNC machines from Germany and Japan money can buy, they are applying ISO standards to a lot of their products. They are where the japanese were 10 yrs ago and catching up quickly.
Yes they can make utterly cheap c r a p , on the other end of the scale they can produce stuff to rival the japanese, australians, koreans etc.
They have a space program, they learn from others and have a plan.
In 10 yrs they will out sell the japs.
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Follow Up By: Bill BD - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:14

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:14
Absolutely as guzzi said - China has the capacity to produce quality goods and will increasingly do so. Which company is more likley to have a few slack workers in the assemby process: China or Australia (or the US for that matter)?

People used to bump on about "jap crap" years ago. How many of you are driving Toyotas?
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Follow Up By: sandk33 - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:43

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:43
Give me an email addy and I will sent the pics of the catamaran twin runway aircraft carrier they are building to be launched in 2015.....and as of now they are the only country that has ever shot down a satelite addmitedly it was one of theirs.
They are well above the dimsim cookers of the past.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:11

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:11
Gday Gaz
Dim sims come from Taiwan not China




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Follow Up By: Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 21:19

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 21:19
I have NO DOUBT whatsoever the Chinese will eventually produce a high quality product matching the Japanese ! My tongue in cheek comment was pretty much a "quote unquote " from a very good friend of mine who has spent the last 12 years living in the Shenzhen Province and is indirectly associated with the Great Wall Car company ! He is a motor mechanic by trade and is now a qualified engineer who has business dealings with the above mentioned car company and on his last visit back home to Australia ( where he just couldn't get enough bread rolls ) said " the Chinese will need another 7 to 10 years before they can match what Japan has done in not only the motor industry but most of what they produce " The biggest problem they have, apparently, is to actually produce spare sparts and to make the spare parts identical ! I think it will be great when we see quality 4wd's enter Australia at very competitive prices !!

Happy Travelling

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Ps Hey MUZBURY - thanks for the heads up on the dim sim thing, I will put that on page 9 in my book of stiff sh-t information !
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 21:59

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 21:59
Gazz

No problem, i'm full of that type of information



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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:44

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:44
sandk33 you can send those pics to me please at goerke@bigpond.net.au.


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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 13:04

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 13:04
Gday Gaz
Sorry old son, i was wrong with my information. Dim Sim's are a Melbourne invention. Made by Elizabeth Chong"s father .



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Follow Up By: sandk33 - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 14:44

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 14:44
Has been sent Fred.
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Follow Up By: Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 14:45

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 14:45
Howz it going MUZBRY ? - you are obviously a very knowledgeable fellow to be coming up with these most informative and interesting facts ! For years I have been asking myself " I wonder where Dim Sims come from ? " I have spent many a sleepness night wondering, I have asked the question around the campfire on my tours and at one stage I even asked my ex wife ( WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING ) and even she had no idea ! Who would have thought the answer could be found on one of Australia's leading 4wd / camping websites ??? I take my Akubra off to you fine sir ! Mate - would I be pushing my luck to test your skills again ? Something else has been bugging me for years - to the point where what's left of my once fine head of hair is turning grey and dissappearing faster than a V6 rodeo uses petrol - Why do mens shirts have the buttons on the right and womens shirts have their buttons on the left ?? Get this intriguing and baffling fact right and I will have to invite you on one of my very non informative 4wdriving / camping trips !

All the best MUZ

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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 15:15

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 15:15
Gday Gaz
The button hole is on the left with mens shirts , and womens are on the right. When a man dose them up we do it ourselves. Ok. When in the old days when shirts were invented, women had a maid to do the job, so the button is on the right and the hole is on the left .

So when is the next trip ?





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Follow Up By: Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 20:47

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 20:47
Hey MUZ - awesome ! Next you will be telling me who invented the mop bucket ! Hey Mate you are welcome to come on my next trip but somehow I don't think you would enjoy it ! See, I think most people in this country get life too easy, so after setting up my 1st tour company back in 1998 and things just went to plan and no-one complained I decided to set up another tour company. Now because of the self promotion rule on this great site I can't give you the name or details of my new company but a man of your intellect should be able to work out that it sort of rhymes with missed tossed and lungry tours ! What we do is we never take maps or gps because ? you always get to your destination - where's the fun in that ? If we need an additional 80 litres of fuel we only take 50 ! If it's a 10 day trip we take at least 60 cases of beer, 4 packets of panadol, two tubes of Berocca, 1 packet of cashews 2 packets of crackers, 2 cold pies each - quickeze are optional and a texta ! Deck chairs are forbidden along with toilet paper, matches and any form of lighting ! When we get lost and someone tells us to turn left at the next junction we ALWAYS turn right ! You getting the picture now ? I think there are too many soft people in this country who whinge at the most trivial thing ( couple lads even complained when I left the cords to the Trailblazers at home ) so I started these HTFU trips. As a special treat for my paying customers on the next trip I will be providing music. Playing 24/7 for the duration of the trip ( never to be turned off and at least on 3/4 volume ) will either be the Spice Girls - what I want what I want what I really really want or Billy Ray Cyrus's Achie Breakie Heart ! Not sure which one to take - what's your thoughts on this dillema ? And I won't even start on the dry ice bombs or the aerosol cans in the fire !
Now MUZ, if for one minute you think I am joking I can assure you I am not !! If this is not the God's honest truth may this this country be struck down with 2 redheaded female prime ministers for the next ten years !! It started off as a bit of a joke but I now average around 15 participants each trip and it's growing !

Let me know if you want me to arrange a character building trip for you and you mates !

All the best

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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 21:01

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 21:01
Good evening Gaz
Where are you situated ? Wes and I would love to come, it comes down to time as we both still work full time .
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 21:03

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 21:03
Gaz
E mail.......muzbry@yahoo.com
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Follow Up By: Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 21:28

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 21:28
Hey Muzbry

Just sent you an email and it bouced back with "system error "

is that email address correct?


Cheers


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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 06:36

Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 06:36
Good morning Gaz

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Follow Up By: Mr Pointyhead - Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 13:17

Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 13:17
Yanks shot down a out-of-control Satallite that look like it was going to hit the US mainland about 10 or so years ago. They used a anti-sat missle that was lanuched from a US Navy Cruiser.

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Reply By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:14

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:14
A bloke at work bought one 3 weeks ago and has just got back from his first trip away towing a camper trailer to Darwin and back with a few little side trips. He loves it. It looks well built and is nicely fitted out. He had no issues getting a tow bar and roof racks for it - all off the shelf in Adelaide.

New 4WD on the road for less than 24k. If I was replacing the jack I would look at one.

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Follow Up By: Rockape - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:11

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:11
Pete,
I know what you are talking about, I haven't heard one bad word about them.

Do it easy,
RA.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 22:29

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 22:29
hi
i was toldand also read it in an article in the press that the great wall is built using mitsubitshi engine/ trans and drive train and suspension parts so why wouldn't it go well
mm are getting rid of old stock in this way and great wall will benefit with on going sales with reliable components
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Reply By: Bill BD - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:17

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 18:17
Good point RA. Korea are making reliable cars that are really affordable (but expensive to fix). It won't take too many years China to dominate the car market.... a decade perhaps?
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:08

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:08
Bill,
yes as you said they will dominate and they started this back in the early 70's.

I only posted this as that little piece of crap I drive has exceeded my wildest expectations when it comes to reliability and cost. Carting me it returns 6l/100k on the highway and with 5 big blokes in the car i get 7/7.5l/100k. Not bad for a piece of crap.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:56

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:56
RA, we need snap of 5 burly miners hanging out of the yundai mate :-)))))

DIL has one with over 300 thou on the clock.

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Follow Up By: Rockape - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:42

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:42
Fred,
Would take and send you a pic but guess what and I don't like to gloat about I am on holidays for 10 weeks, boys in the back of the very fast 2 door sports get a bit peeved off about the room back there.

Best part of the trip is when I go out to pass and wait for the surge of power when the turbo kicks in, then I think, hang on this hasn't got a turbo. For the twisty back roads I use when we bypass Ayr I crank on the anti roll bar and last time I did this I cracked the windscreen (eat your hearts out V8 supercars). It is also fitted with the state of the art manual window winders and manual door locks. Speedo also has an inbuilt safety device as it reads a dollar nine when it is really only doing a dollar. Long range tank comes standard at 42 litres.

It is also rated for deep water crossings, have crossed Yellow Gin creek twice when the road was closed to all but trucks and four wheel drives, I just hooked in behind the cow catches on the back of a couple of B doubles. Coppers just shook their heads when they saw me, I was so close they didn't know I was behind the trucks until it was to late. Before anyone gets up me about this I had already found out the depth before hand from other trucks and the guys in the B doubles knew I was there.

Go the mighty white lightning, two door and very fast sports Yundai.

Will be going to the Flinders ranges shortly but I have decided to use my Cruiser, the Yundai would probably pull the van in half with it's blistering acceleration.

Have a good one,
RA.
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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 18:41

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 18:41


Good onya RA.....hope ya get to have a good beak in the Flinders Ranges.

BTW....good to see someone else has used the flooded crossing manouvre behind a semi. B double even better. I can remember doing it right up the clacker of a semi near Narrabri many years ago through a flooded causeway. It was planned with the semi driver's knowledge. Works a treat. Wouldn't be game to try now though.

Cheers mate.

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Reply By: Geepeem - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:33

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:33
The Chinese invasion continues...
Next year the Foton brand will be released in Australia (early 2012).
They will have a 4x4 dual cab version with a 3tonne towing capacity.
Engines include a 2.8 litre cummins turbo diesel or a 2.4 litre sourced Mitsubishi petrol.
The Foton will be longer, wider and have a higher clearance than the current Hilux but will be 15-20% cheaper to buy.
Have a look at this link:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/124135/foton-ute-from-china-coming-to-australia-early-in-2012/

My general experience is the Chinese quality is improving all the time but more importantly they have a real commitment to improve their quality. I have a friend who works at a large tractor dealership that sells Chinese tractors - an engineer from the company in China comes out and spends many months at the dealership with his laptop with chinese keyboard and reports (emails) direct to factory engineers with details of every fault that comes to light as the tractors come for warranty repairs or general servicing etc. You can't get much quicker feedback to the productiuon line than that.

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Follow Up By: Rockape - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 06:21

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 06:21
Mate,
they already sell their light commercial range here and have a fairly large dealer network

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Follow Up By: Geepeem - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 06:37

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 06:37
Yes Rockage you are correct - the Foton trucks (Aumark) have been here for some time. What I was referring to was the release of the "ute" range including the 4x4 model. These are still undergoing compliance testing etc for Australian standards. My understanding is that the 4x4 range will not be available for sale until next year (although some are here for testing) - but I will stand corrected if thats not the case.
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Follow Up By: energy marty - Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 15:43

Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 15:43
I've got a m8 with one - open up the bonnet and guess what's stamped on the head - Mitsubishi. He's happy as with it, had it for over a year and it hasn't misse a beat.

For all those knocking Chinese product, think back to what we used to say about stuff out of Japan...

Sure, there's some crap coming out of China, but the same could be said for most countries.

And on a side note - saw on SBS the other night, and I can't remember which city in the States, but they have a Chinese company building their new bridge - quality as good as American built but for about 3/4 of the price.
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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:41

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:41
Hi Rockape,

My issue with them (Great wall & Chinese produced product) isnt the quality, although it has been dismal over the years, Its the fact that they do very little R & D, they simply copy/ reverse engineer.

If the original companies who put in the $ in design and improvements arent supported then it will be a race to the bottom of the quality barrel as manufacturers copy each other in an effort to reduce costs.


Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:59

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:59
Absolutly no different to what any other manufacturing country has done in years gone by ,,
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Reply By: david m5 - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 20:35

Wednesday, Aug 03, 2011 at 20:35
The way the yanks are going we could see the usa of China being a new country
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Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:02
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:11

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:11
I thought they do own it because they have lent them most of their money. It's an interesting twist to the capitalist/communist struggle. The Chinese are way smarter than the Russians were mark my words.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 09:03

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 09:03
Get yourselves a copy of the book " 1421" by Gavin Menzies , puts China into perspective ,
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Reply By: mikehzz - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:06

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:06
Does it matter if the cars are ugly looking? I like European styling. I reckon most Jap cars are ordinary looking as well. Maybe I have to hand in my man card if that's becoming important to me? Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:44

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 08:44
Gday Mike
Ugly grows on you . 6 mths time you wont notice them , they will blend with all the others that look the same.



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Follow Up By: Fred G NSW - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 18:48

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 18:48
Ugly grows on you . 6 mths time you wont notice them , they will blend with all the others that look the same.


Muz..... he wasn't talking about wimmen mate :-))))))))))))

Sorry :-) LOL

Fred.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 19:49

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 19:49
Gday Fred
Not to sure if i can read that to my wife...hahah


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Reply By: Capt. Wrongway - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:30

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 10:30
A business friend of mine recently replaced his ageing fleet of 3 Toyota SR5 utes with Great Walls. So far he's not had a problem with any of them and he reckons that he's well in front money wise. If these stand up to the beating he gives them, then they were well worth it.
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Reply By: Andrew - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:55

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:55
As long as you don't hit anything and have it collapse around you.
They didn't do very well when they were crash tested

That's where retro engineering old vehicles leaves you a long way behind in the safety stakes.
They might catch up eventually but if I do have a crash and like to think I can walk away from it.

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Follow Up By: Bill BD - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 18:44

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 18:44
That's interesting Andrew. I thought the more a vehicle collapsed around you the more chance you have of not getting hurt. The logic being that every bend and buckle absorbs and disperses impact/energy.

Your comment about retro fitting old vehicles. Do you mean they are less safe because they are not engineered to collapse?

Have you got a link about great wall crash testing?
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 19:03

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 19:03
And Toyota 4x4s are high on the list as being safe ? Think again , in the real world , volume sales times x amount of milage x crashes x cost of repairs x deaths = ??? Any and every vehicle in Australia is only as safe as the Driver and /or the other driver that you /they ran into.
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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 22:05

Thursday, Aug 04, 2011 at 22:05
Great Walls have a 2 star crash rating, most of the other utes - D Max etc are only 3 star so not a lot better.

A lot of people here appear to hang sh*t on any new product.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 08:02

Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 08:02
Andrew,
this maybe of interest to you.

Toyota/ Great wall

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 13:36

Friday, Aug 05, 2011 at 13:36
Wow 4 stars for the Great Wall. Now that's surprising.
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Reply By: Triggy - Sunday, Aug 07, 2011 at 01:15

Sunday, Aug 07, 2011 at 01:15
Well put alloy.
Andrew, how many accidents ave you been in in the last 10 years?
Assuming you drive with the utmost responsibility on tar, dirt or sand, if you get hit by a third party in the wrong place at he wrong time regardless of the vehicle you are in (Volvo's included) you could be in strife. Yes. one could reduce ones chances of death by driving a vehicle with top safety rating but it still won't guarantee eternal life.
The point I am trying to make is that the higher safety ratings don't guarantee life, they might improve the chances, but don't guarantee life. Accidents are just that, they are not planned. Over our period of having a drivers license , how many "accidents" have we been involved in? A very low percentage, I would hazard to guess?
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Reply By: Andrew - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2011 at 08:45

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2011 at 08:45
The dual cab ute got 2 stars
The wagon has got 4


check out the ancap site for info and explanations. There is a big diffecrence between just getting 2 stars and something like the VW which came in with 5

From the report

"High Risk of life-threatening injury in offset test.

The tested model of Great Wall Motors SA220 was introduced in Australia during 2009. The SA220 has minimal safety features (see table on next page). There are no top tether anchorages for child restraints so this vehicle is unsuitable for transporting young children.

2 Stars. The SA220 scored 2.32 out of 16 in the offset crash test. The passenger compartment did not hold its shape well. Protection from serious head and leg injury was poor for the driver. Chest protection was weak for the driver."



http://www.ancap.com.au
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Aug 09, 2011 at 09:12

Tuesday, Aug 09, 2011 at 09:12
And there is an awfull large PRICE GAP between a GreatWall ute and a VW ute so it stands to reason that one would have higher ANCAP rating , inbuilt safety costs but just as night follows day safety aspects in vehicles trickle down the price line , a current GreatWall ute has a lot more inbuilt safety features at a less price than a 10 yr old Highlux.
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