Extra spare for 200 series
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 20:11
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Sapper D
Giddy All-------New member, so hope I don't stuff this up
Was wondering, if anyone can tell me if the following will work........I've got an extra spare wheel/tyre for my 100 series cruiser, which is a 275 x 75 R17, and am currently about to update to a 200 series cruiser. Question is , will the spare I've got for the 100,fit the 285 x 65 R17 which the 200 is.--I know they are a wider tyre, but the stubs are the same, and even though it might not be ideal, would that spare get me out of trouble if needed?--------It's only a second spare, so only likely to be used in an emergency....................Any advice gratefully recieved
Reply By: snoopyone - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 21:22
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 21:22
Would probably depend on the offset 200 owners will probably know
You could always compare on this for actual size between the two
Tyre comparator
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 21:47
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 21:47
It will certainly get you out of trouble Sapper.
I would never carry a second spare but often the existing spare is a bit different
than the current wheel set I may be running.
Bit of common sense and make sure that rolling diameter of each wheel is roughly the same by letting a bit of air out of 1 or more tyres.
Change as soon as you can of course.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 22:22
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2011 at 22:22
Hi Sapper,
Apparently both the 100 & 200 run +60 offset, but the spoke design of the rim is different and the 100 rim only clears the front caliper by millimeters. Also, the load rating of the rim is not the same so you "may" have insurance issues if you ever have to use it.
What many 200 owners have done is buy the genuine steel 200 rim for ~$130 and use that as the second spare. You do need to buy steel wheel nuts (the alloy style won't fit the steelies) but you can probably sell the 100 series alloy for what the 200 genuine steel costs.
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Sapper D - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:09
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:09
Hi Captain,--the extra spare I'm talking about is only a steel rim one, and it matches the 100series alloys perfectly.---I bought it because of the price difference between the two, which was huge.---havent had to use it yet, so maybe I'll sell it with the cruiser----Thanks for the tip about the nuts, i didn't know that
Cheers Sapper D
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Reply By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:07
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:07
Sapper D, where do you intend travelling and in what terrain.... why do you need two spares and have you heard of tyre plugs?
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Follow Up By: Sapper D - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:18
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:18
G,Day mate,--Just finished doing a lot of inland stuff,---Tanami, Great Central, Simpson Crossing,
Birdsville &
Oodnadatta tracks, etc, and felt better with two spares on board.---I've also got all the tyre repair gear needed, but found it better to change flats quickly, and then mend the flats at
camp that night.----Bit lazy in my old age eh!--------incidently for what it's worth, other vehicle had three flats, and in 9000km I got through unscathed----gotta give a big plug for the Bridgestone 694LTs----absolutely brilliant............................Cheers Sapper D
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 22:42
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 22:42
We never change tyres if we don't have to, plug and go in under 5 minutes....it would take you longer to change it.
The idea of plug and go is if you get another
puncture with a plugged tyre you still have a good spare.... better to have two punctures in one tyre then two punctures in two tyres!
Bridgestones are OK, if you want something fantastic and that you won't destroy try the Toyo Open Country M/T's.
Haven't found a stronger tyre then the Toyo's.
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Follow Up By: Sapper D - Thursday, Sep 01, 2011 at 20:24
Thursday, Sep 01, 2011 at 20:24
It sounds easy when you say it quick like that olcoolone, and if it's only a straight forward pinhole punture--fine, what about a star fracture on some of that gibber
rock, --cant just plug that can you ?
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Reply By: Smiley Bill - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:02
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:02
Hi Sapper D,
As
well as possible wheel offset issues 200 vs 100 series, there is also a difference between 100 series with IFS and 100 series with a live axle.
Might pay to drop into a wheel/ tyre
shop for advice as
well.
SB
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Reply By: R.J.W. - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:28
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:28
Hi Sapper,
I have a 200 series and got some genuine 100 series alloy 17inch rims with new rubber. 4 of cheaper than I could buy 2 tyres. I put them on my camper and although I haven't checked the front wheels I know they fit the back no problems, for emergancy use. (A bit narrower) go for it. Cheers Rob.
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 16:37
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 16:37
Sapper,
In the past I always carried 2 spares and used them regularly. As tyre technology improved I found I was getting fewer punctures and when I last changed vehicles decided that for remote trips I would carry 1 full spare, a new tyre (not on rim) and a couple of tubes. So far this strategy has worked
well and saves the cost & weight of an extra rim.
If I did a lot of cross country work I would change but I prefer not to do that.
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 17:02
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 17:02
Sapper
If it is off a RFS 105 then it won't fit.
If it is off a IFS 100 then it *might fit* but it is unlikley. Tthe issue, as highlighted earlier is hitting the calipers. The 200 17 Inch rim is a different shape to the 100 17" IFS on the inside of the rim. They are both 5 x 150 PCD and 60mm offset though. The 200 rim is 8" wide.
Also are you sure the tyres are 275 x 75 17? That is an unusual size.
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Follow Up By: Sapper D - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:05
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:05
Sorry about the printing error,--It's 275 x 65 R17, not 75, and yes it's the 100IFS
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Reply By: Sapper D - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:22
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2011 at 20:22
Thanks everyone for the reply's, I've been an "onlooker" to Explorer OZ for some time now, and having picked up much valuable info from members such as yourselves, I thought it was time I joined up and paid my way.-----This has been my first thread, --hope to participate more in the future
Thanks again.......Sapper D
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