gu patrol ac fan control

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:04
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Hello,
Having problems with my interior/heater fan only working on high is this a common problem and has anyone fixed it before. also just like to know if there is a 3l diesel motor out there that has lasted more then 250000 km?

thanks craig
mt george s.a
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Reply By: Grungle - Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:25

Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:25
Weill it is not uncommon. Sounds like the fuseable link has gone on the speed control board located near the fan. This causes the 3 resistive pads to be taken out so the fan does not work on the first 3 speeds. The high speed works still as it is a seperate circuit with resistive pads.

You can repair it by bridging the blown fuesable link with solder but it can be a problem to get the solder to 'stick' as the tracks are like a carbon graphite material. Saying that however, mine went and I repaired it with no dramas and that was in the middle of nowhere up the Cape.

Good Luck

Regards
David
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 12:16

Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 12:16
Don't solder the link, the solder used is a special heat sensitive solder thats designed to break to link if it gets to hot.

Instead of putting a bandaid on it and hoping everything is all right, get it checked to see why it has happened..... fan amy be on the way out and drawing excessive current.

That link is there for a reason.
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Follow Up By: Grungle - Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 21:27

Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 21:27
Thanks olcoolone but it is a reasonably common issue and this is the standard fix for it apart from spending $95 for another board so I will still recommend that if someone doesn't want to buy the board that they can solder.

Not sure if you are aware but there are many posts on this in the Patrol forum spanning many years.

The circuit is still protected by standard blade fuses. The fuseable link is only for the first 3 speeds and has no affect on the 4th speed so it really has no use at all except being a pain in the ar$s when it goes.

Yes I have a technical background.

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David
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:50

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:50
If it's got no use then why is it there?

What made it fail in the first place.

QUOTE (Yes I have a technical background)

..... you too sounds different to my technical background where doing things right the first time is the only way.

But then again we have the customers best interests at heart.




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Follow Up By: Grungle - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 16:04

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 16:04
Quote - "If it's got no use then why is it there?" - Exactly, even Nissan don't know. Maybe a recycled part from another model.

Quote - "What made it fail in the first place." - From what I have found, the material that is used to make the tracks is the problem. Porous graphite carbon compound that is susceptable to moisture. It is a poorly designed board.

Quote - "..... you too sounds different to my technical background where doing things right the first time is the only way." - you would be suprised. Just because the suggested fix is not replacing the board as stipulated in the service manual doesn't make it wrong.

Quote - "But then again we have the customers best interests at heart." - Always.

If you owned a Patrol and frequented the Patrol forum then you would see the issues and recomended fix on a regular basis. Of all the posts that I have seen where the first 3 speeds don't work but the forth does is this exact issue.

Unfortunately you throw your arms up and tell eveyone to hold their horses but you do not have an idea about this particular issue. Sure you may have some fault finding experience and your suggestion of circuit testing has merit in most situations but my recommendation was based on not only my experience but also those that have also had this fault as well.

Some decide to go and buy the board and fit it up themselves because they are not comfortable soldering the link. It still fixed their problem but did they measure the resistance of the fan circuit first to see if there was a short - no they didn't. Ring up Nissan and ask them and they will tell you it is a common fault and to come in and get the board.

Now you may reply with some quote on technical ability of fault finding procedure so I will make the suggestion not to bother as it will be a waste of your time.

Thanks for reminding my why I didn't continue my membership here. Posting here is like pulling teeth sometimes.

David

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Follow Up By: Craig V - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:11

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:11
Thanks again,

But is the fusable link part of the resistor board next to the fan under the glove box on the flat board(fan resistor) thing held in by 2 screws?

Thanks craig v
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Reply By: Homebrewer - Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:36

Saturday, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:36
G'day Craig,
I agree with David, it's most likley the 3 speed fan resistor board. It is located near the fan and easily replaced. I replaced mine about 12 months ago, Nissan part number NI-27150-OWO14 cost me $71.
Cheers Pete.
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Follow Up By: Craig V - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:02

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:02
Thanks everyone,
No need to argue whos right and whos wrong but I know if I take it in to get repaired they will say every thing needs to be replaced because its a nissan! I think it is the resistor and nothing major because it works ok on high or 4, I think Ive looked at the resistor board if its the one under the glovebox next to the fan flat plate thing held in by 2 screws?

Next thing , has anyone heard of a 3l engine lasting more then 250000km??
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:00

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:00
The resistor as per the above replies is a high possibilty however
the whole fan assembly comes off pretty easily Craig.

First thing to do is to kick the fan as when they get old they sometimes do not turn without some incentive , Then take the fan out and see if it works - this tests if cage has a slight resistiction to rotation.

If either of these things makes it work then resistor isn't the issue and a replacement may be required.

In my case the bearing was rusted and dragging meaning it would only rotate with that incentive (on high power there is more turning force).
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:55

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:55
Good to see Robin that you want to know the cause of the problem and rectify the cause instead of engineering a solution.

Too many people forget to diagnose the root cause and act on that.
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