4wd advice

I am looking at getting a 4wd for onroad/offroad. Have looked at heaps and am now thoroughly confused. Diesel or petrol?

What I am looking for is:
7 seater (so probably leaves me with either the Patrol or Landcruiser)
fuel economy (driving across nullabor with camper trailer)
Beer budget (under $20,000)

Can someone give me some advice? I know, I know... how long is a piece of string?

A million thanks!

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Reply By: Hairs & Fysh - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 17:12

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 17:12
Hi Karen,
I'm being bias here, just a little anyway. :)
I reckon you can't go past an 80 series Turbo diesel.
We've owned ours since August 05, and will keep her for many years to come.
The money you have to spend will depend of what bells & whistles it has.
Make sure it has it's complete service history and that the Big End Bearings have been done every 100 00k's. The turbos are a bit hard on them, especially if they have been lugged and done a fair bit of towing.
A very reliable work horse, with parts readily available.
If you do choose an 80, become a member of LCOOL heaps of great advice and help there.
Anyway, good luck with it all and happy travels.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 17:52

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 17:52
Yep , I agree with Hairs........ cant go past an 80 Series with that sort of a budget.
Dont even look at the 3.0lt Nissan Grenades!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Hairs & Fysh - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:48

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:48
Hi again Karen,
Forgot to mention with the Turbo Diesel, a factory unit is the better option, more $$ but the better choice over a 1HZ with an after market turbo. Not saying that the 1HZ engine is a poor engine, but it was not built for a turbo. You can have one fitted, as long as other specs have been upgraded to handle the increase in power.
80's fitted with the 1HD-T or the later model with the 1HD-FT have a higher asking price than the non turbo diesels and petrol models do.
Also 80's built after August 96 can tow 3500kg, were as the earlier girls are limited to 2600kg, this is for both diesel and petrol models.
Hope this helps.

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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 21:20

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 21:20
Go for an 80 series. I have a 1HDT 500,000km and she pulled a trailer across the Simpson last month not a problem in the world used just over a liter of oil for 5,000km. Only fault is 19 liters per 100km towing. Without trailer mid 13s is the best.

BO NOT get a 3 liter Turbo Patrol engine failure is not a matter of IF buy WHEN

Wayne B
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 19:41

Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 19:41
whe you say 3litre Patrol, do you mean the 2.8? My 2.8 GQ dropped a peice of glow plug now needs a bottom end rebuild. I'm thinking of getting another 2.8 for spares but not sure if it will do the same thing. sorry for hi-jacking the thread.
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Reply By: OutBack Wanderers - Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 17:25

Sunday, Sep 04, 2011 at 17:25
In the search information on opening page, just type in

second hand 4wd in the text box and all your qestions will be answered

you can see why there were 65 reviews and no replies because it has been done to death

I have taken the trouble to scribe back ten pages

In search box where it asks for thread number, type in



88533, these are the latest ones in past month, good luck in search

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Follow Up By: Karen W2 - Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 08:18

Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 08:18

I also took the trouble to search back pages, however most of them were for more expensive and later models, that is why I posted.

But thank you for your notes!
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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 16:13

Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 16:13
Nothing against an 80 series, but what about a nice 3.5 V6 Jackaroo...7 seats in many, big, strong..reliable....& the best bit ?????....can get up to $10k change to
buy fuel..beer...other essentials. I get 15L/100 km towing a C/t..driven sedately.
Biased opinion ?? You betcha........oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 19:44

Monday, Sep 05, 2011 at 19:44
We also have three Jacks in our Faimily and all have been trouble free and reliable. My personal one just got it first rattle in the dash at 186000ks. But the petrol motor is the more reliable motor in Jacks.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Karen W2 - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011 at 08:25

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011 at 08:25
Oldbaz, what type of camper trailer do you have?
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011 at 10:04

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011 at 10:04
Karen, our C/t is an offroad trailer I bought new & added an Oztrail top. It is under
750 Kg loaded & thus is not braked. We have done over 50k outback touring with it,
towed by the Jack in the picture below. Pic is on the track into Bungles. We travel as
light as we can, but load included 4 adults.You wont find better bang for your buck
than a 3.5L V6 Jack...still around for $10-$12k with under 200k. Ours is an auto & now has 150k on it..not one issue in 70k of touring. If you are looking seriously at one
go for the lowest k"s & the best service history, the diesel model has had serious issues, although some have had a good run....I would avoid. Check Ebay & Carpoint
etc for an idea of what is around. Glad to answer any other queries..........oldbaz.
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011 at 07:37

Tuesday, Sep 06, 2011 at 07:37
I'd look at an 04 or 05 diesel Pajero.
Versatile, efficient, reliable, good value (the sheep push Toyota prices up).
Unless you go rock crawling they will take you anywhere. Far better on road than almost any other off road capable 4WD.
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