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Submitted: Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 09:42
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Hi out there,
Does anyone know wether the transcontinental railway has a track running beside it that is acessable/drivable East to West (4wd) ???
Regards Lozza
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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:06

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:06
Hi Lozza, The Trans access road from Lyons SA to Haig WA is closed and no permit will be given. Have a look on the map Hema Great desert tracks-south central. Cheers Andy

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Reply By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:10

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:10
Hi Lozza,
The track alongside the Transcontinental rail line is on private railway property and travel on it is not permitted by the railway. Requests for permission to travel on it are met with blunt refusal. This has come about by foolish travellers flagging down trains for assistance. Pathetic!
The exception is the short section from Kingoonya/Tarcoola to the northern end of Googs Track to allow access to Googs Track. No permit is required.

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Reply By: BarryR1 - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:39

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:39
I've often wondered if that ability to ban users from a "private" road such is this is backed up by law or legislation. Is there an easement or similar for a certain distance either side of the rail line? Given that the road probably goes through a lot of private or leased farming properties and possibly some crown land (unsure there), what powers are there to regulate access and prosecute people using the road?

Just curious and hoping someone may have the answer.

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Follow Up By: disco driver - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:47

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:47
Yes, there is an easment each side of the full length of the line, (may be up to 100metres either side) and yes, the Govt and the rail companies using the line do have the power to prevent unauthorised travel, entirely at their discretion.

The minimum charge if caught using the tracks unauthorised would be a charge of "trespass" and maybe more.

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Follow Up By: BarryR1 - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:07

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:07
Thanks Disco. Thought it must have been something like that.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:07

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:07
Hi lozza

Like the replies above, you are not able to get permits for the complete run...bugger. We gave driven both legal ends and being bias, the WA side is the best.

One section that you are able to drive legally in WA is from Kalgoorlie to Haig.

We ducked up from Cocklebiddy to Rawlinna then headed west. Fantastic drive with some unreal camping locations and is one drive that we would love to do again.


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Follow Up By: gordon_adel - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:11

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:11
Very nice photos. That last one...where is that from?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:59

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:59
Hi Gordon

Before to get to Kitchener on the Trans Access Line, the country has a remarkable change from Bluebush to thick and at times quite dense vegetation with the tall Eucalyptus and Black Oak. Fiona and I were camped less that 20 metres from the road and it was impossible to see our camp. Our camp spot was that great, Fiona said that we could have stayed there a week.

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There was a two wheel track that headed towards the Railway line and we followed it and then there was a perfect flat cleared sport, just waiting to accommodate some lucky camper, which turned out to be Fiona and I.

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The only thing to be aware of is the line is very busy and there were at least 5 trains during the night. The first one woke me up with a startle and after that we knew what to expect.


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Follow Up By: Mick O - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:06

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:06
It's an interesting part of the world alright. Mind you that slow rocky trip down the last stretches of the Connie Sue to Rawlinna is a bit ordinary! A lot of it reminds me of the country I grew up in north of Mildura. Guess I'll be seeing it again on the way to the EO gathering.

This bit of video captures some of the country between Rawlinna , Haig and the Eyre Highway including one of the loooong trains at Haig.


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Follow Up By: gordon_adel - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:26

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:26
Stephen,
Thanks for that info. I think I need to do that same trip. Just love that type of scenery. Bush camping is the best I reckon too. Btw...think that is the same floor mat that we use. Can't think of the name of it just at this moment...but something about the military people used to use it too?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:58

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:58
Hi Gordon

When we enquired at the Cocklebiddy Roadhouse about the track conditions to Rawlinna, the two chaps there must have thought we were green as they raved on how bad the track was. Yes it was slow going, but no dramas at all when dry. If you intend to camp along the way up like we did and want a campfire, make sure that you carry wood, as there is not one piece to be seen along the way.

You could see some very bad bog marks from when it had been wet. Like Mick said in his video, we could not believe it when we had full Telstra NextG phone coverage from Rawlinna right through to Kalgoorlie.

The mat is Cgear and it is great. The only thing next time is we want to wander on a couple to tracks that head south from the Trans Access Line. We only saw one other vehicle heading east when we were out there, and that was during the night and it must have been a station vehicle.

I am surprised that there has not been a lot of mention of this track here on the forum, as that country has a lot to offer anyone wanting to get away from things, yet still very close to civilisation (Kalgoorlie).



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Follow Up By: gordon_adel - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 15:05

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 15:05
C-gear...yep that's the one we've got. Heaps good. We will definitely do that trip. Sounds too good not to do it.
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Reply By: Paul V1 - Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 13:34

Sunday, Sep 11, 2011 at 13:34
I drove east to west, fantastic drive if you are willing to risk it.
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