My Troopy Split rims will be RIP soon

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 16:37
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I have had enough. My split rims will be trash soon. I have had my 3rd puncture in 3 months caused by cheap crap tubes. I cannot get better ones where I live - or so my local tyre dealer says. The last one lasted less than 1000km and I very rarely go off road at the moment - only one beach run in the last year.

I will need 2 new tyres shortly anyway and have 2 good tubeless ones on the Troopy right now so I am in the market for 4 x steel or mag 5 stud 78 series Troopy wheels for tubeless tyres.

I may have to wait a month or so as I have just put 2 new tyres on our Camry and 2 on our Nissan 4WD in NZ plus another $2,000 spent on servicing/air con repairs on the Camry and Nissan - OUCH. However if rims at the right price turn up, I will not turn them down.

So does anyone know of 4 x mags or steel rims in SE QLD,email me at stevesub at


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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 16:51

Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 16:51
Buy Michelin tubes steve.Just west from the Gold Coast Hospital.
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Reply By: obee1212 - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 18:18

Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 18:18
over ten years and a lot of offroad stuff I only staked one tyre on my split rims. I did experience some probs when I never cleaned out the rust crap that remained floating around in the tyre. I would be thinking someone at the tyre mans place has been negligent same as me.

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Reply By: pt_nomad - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 19:15

Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 19:15
I has bridgestone tubes recommended to me. I have had them for over 3 years without a puncture.

They have done west east crossing of Oz, a further simpson/ hay river trip, flinders trip and various other local trips.

When I got the tubes I weighed them, the Bridgestone tubes were 300g where the cheaper ones were 200g.

The details on the tube label are :
LT750 r16

The tube is labeled LT750616-RT

The tube is made in Korea.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 19:23

Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 19:23

Are your problems all in the same tyre? and at roughly the same place on the tyre? I've had that problem and been told that sometimes a broken steel reinforcing wire will work its way in to reach the tube. No sign of it when you look for it but it protrudes when the tyre flexes. I can't vouch for the logic, but I discarded that tyre.

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Follow Up By: Member - Charlie M (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 21:35

Tuesday, Sep 13, 2011 at 21:35
That is right and can happen, but the cheap tubes go in the same location and are a real problem. Most time wire poke through it will show a small mark on inside of tyre casing and may have 2 or 3 pin pricks in tube at the same place

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Reply By: Stevesub1 - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:01

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:01
Thanks for the replies. I am still going down the new wheel route but will not be parting with the split rims - more junk for the shed..

My punctures happen on different tyres. I have 2 spares for when we are travelling and use both before I get any repaired. I am off to the tyre shop later today see what they say about the latest puncture.

I will be ordering new ROH steel wheels soon me thinks - and I do need 2 new tyres before the end of the year so a good time to do a complete swap onto new wheels.

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Reply By: JohnnyC - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 15:14

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 15:14
Hi Steve,
Sounds like you are getting your punctures on the highway, and I bet they are all on the back axle.
I have a troopy with split rims and had the same problem, started with a nail in the tread, I patched the tube and the patch melted,I replaced the tube and the tyre simply deflated, put in my spare tube, same thing, I think the quality of the new tubes didn't match the price.
The tubes had melted on the sides, and the inner sidewall of the tyre had blistered,I found that the back tyres get very hot at highway speeds, I put 50psi in them and it seems to have fixed the problem.
There can be a lot of weight in the back of a troopy and the tyres look OK but really need more air in them.
I bought a Tyredog pressure monitor, it also measures the tyre temps, well worth it, if it saves one tyre it's paid for itself, they just screw onto the valve stem.
I have BFG tyres and run them at 40 psi in the front and 50 in the back, make sure you use brand name tubes, and if you go in the sand, seal the gap in the split rim or sand will get in and chafe the tube.
I stick with split rims because they are easy to fix a puncture on the side of the road, those beadbreakers and the like are not so easy if the tyre has been on a while.
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Follow Up By: Stevesub1 - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 15:30

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 15:30
As we are running at 3 ton all up with a pop-top camper conversion, I always run at 55psi. Yes, the punctures have always been on the rear and we have only done one beach run in the last 12 months with the tyres deflated to get off the beach only.

Crap tubes is what I have got as most of my driving is highway, tubeless is the way I am going. I will not be getting rid of the split rims as I may go back to them when we get back to the deserts. Interesting, I have never had a problem in the deserts or off road, always on the highway and we do not even do more than an hour or two on the highway right over that last couple of years as work keeps us too busy.

I have always got new tubes when I have had a puncture and it is the new ones going. The tyre shop cannot say why. We do not have a lot of choice for close by tyre shops and our one is useless. Time to travel further to get better service, tubes, etc.

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Follow Up By: JohnnyC - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:39

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:39
Hi Steve,
At 3 tonne you must be fairly close to your max weight, I think it is 3.3 so you may need even more pressure in the rear tyres, Toyota recommend 70 psi if it's heavily laden, thats with splits and narrow tyres, tubeless wider tyres don't need to be so high.
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Reply By: Von Helga - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 18:58

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 18:58
For the split rim users like me,
As well as ensuring that the rims are rust free when you put them back together make sure that you or the tyre fitter removes the small white sticker that comes on a new tube. I had a couple that rolled up in to a ball and cause a pressure point on the tube and puntures them. You can see the hole is in the middle of the outline of the sticker.
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Follow Up By: JohnnyC - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:51

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:51
I've had that one as well, I think the adhesive on the sticker reacted with the "rubber" of the tube, it went like bluetac under the sticker, it didn't cause the puncture but I found it whenIi was replacing the tube for another problem, the rubber was rotten under the sticker and not far away from failing.
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Reply By: splits - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:26

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:26

I have been using Michelin tubes for many years and have never had a problem with them. When I bought the car it had well worn Bridgestone 694 tyres with Bridgestone tubes. There had been no repairs carried out on the tubes. I had to laugh one day when I was talking to Mick Hutton of Beadelll Tours and I asked what type of tubes he used in the deserts with his MRF tyres. I expected him to say MRF but he said "heavy duty Chinese" then added "not everything out of China is rubbish". I think any recognised quality brand should be ok but don't forget to put chalk in them.
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Reply By: skid - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:44

Wednesday, Sep 14, 2011 at 20:44
I've got a 1993 troopy camper for 16 years close to 3.2 tons and had splits until last year. Ran all sorts of tyres on it best were Triangles had 2 sets with no punctures worst were BFG's. Tube quality is an issue lots of shops will sell or just stock the cheapest tubes. I did find that a good dose of talc in the tyre after a fix helped prevent further punctures.

Got carried away late last year and bought 4 MT muddies on steel rims 265x16.
Has transformed ride and grip on all roads. Have had one slow puncture out near Bourke fixed with a plug. Made a change to fixing tubes and splitting rims.

Done 10.000 on them at moment have settled on 30psi front and rear don't seem to get hot at my speed.
I am wondering if I should have more pressure in them. Anybody got any experience with this tyre type/size on the troopy camper


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Reply By: get outmore - Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:46

Thursday, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:46
those cheap tubes have another issue in that there darn hard to get a patch to stick to

before i knew about them i had been working exploration and we had micheling tubes and i fixed countless flats with no patch failure (proud of that )

then i changed mobs and i found my self constantly re fixing flats (tubes came in a big box labeled tubes r us or something)

penny still didnt drop until i changed mobs yet again and I was helping an old bushy fix one of the ute punctures
- he was beside himself - thought hed lost his touch as he couldnt get a patch to stick - tried new glue everything

bottom line is those tubes are about $16 retail and a quality tube is about $40

and is quick and simple for places to just replace the tube and bill you
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