Time to replace th Zd3lt
Submitted: Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01
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After replacing the motor(blown hole in 3&4 piston) repairing the gearbox (stripped 5th gear spline) Fuel pump and now aftercooler I have lost confidence in the patrol to take me around OZ .I have been looking at the Dmax/Colorado new will cost me about $50000 to buy and set up (the seats are not that comfortable),also for around $55000 a 2006 Cruiser GXL or a bit cheaper same year Range Rover Sport v6.I am towing a Coromal Capri XC 535 (17'6")and hope to be travelling for at least 5 years.Would love to get some Honest feed back on your thoughts on tow vehicles.
Reply By: Member - Heather MG NSW - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 14:33
Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 14:33
Hi Carl,
We traded out STX Auto diesel D40 dual cab Navara for a new Mitsubishi Pajero auto diesel only a fortnight ago and are hoping it proves to be a more reliable vehicle than the Navara. It is good value for $$$ and we took advantage of the run out offer on the RX model with sat nav and other bells and whistles. Have not yet towed our van with it however we have owned an older model and loved it.
We had reason to have a number of items replaced or repaired under warranty (both new and extended) in the Nissan and it held us up or caused us to return
home early on a number of our trips. To their credit, Nissan honoured the warranty on a number of occasions without question, providing a replacement hire vehicle for a couple of weeks when we were interstate a few years ago.The husband swears he will never touch the brand again though and I couldn't convince him to look at one of the new bigger 6 cylinder Navaras!!
We have had a cargo barrier fitted behind the second row seats for safety and have removed the third row to make an extra storage compartment in the Pajero. Traier brakes were fitted only a couple of days ago and we are yet to get the roof racks sorted for our boat loader.
Looking forward to our first trip away in November to try it out fully packed.
A relative travelled with us for a few months during the winter and was happy with his DMax dual cab, towing a Jayco eagle. We did the
Oodnadatta track,
Mereenie loop so were on quite a few kms of dirt road.
Have fun choosing your tow vehicle...there are lots to choose from.
Regards,
Heather
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 15:32
Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 15:32
I have come to the conclusion that all these 3 ltr motors ect are to small for 4wds,unless you want a Suzuki.
I have lost count of the 4wds we have owned over the years and they have always been 6 cylinder until we purchased out first 3 ltr which was a new 2006 Nissan Navara, I started to have my doubts towing a 2500kg van.
We then traded it in on a new 2008 3ltr crd Patrol, and that was to much truck for little motor.
We have since purchased a 2010 4.8 litre Patrol, yes back to the 6 cylinder motors.
My opinion it doesn't matter what type of 4wd you have just make sure it has a 6 cylinder power plant.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:05
Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:05
Not all 3 litre or smaller diesels are 4 cylinder - some are 6 cylinder and some have more oomph in power and torque than your gas guzzler. A 3 litre diesel is not too small for a Patrol - the problem is the 3 litre diesel they put in it was the wrong engine.
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 20:12
Friday, Sep 16, 2011 at 20:12
Yes I know.
We had a 1983 Nissan with a 2.8 ltr 6 cylinder motor.
It was a short wheel base model.
When you compare the difference with 3ltr patrols and 4.8 ltr patrols re:towing you certainly can experience the difference.
And as far as being a gas guzzler our 2008 3ltr patrol was guzzling between 22ltr per 100ks and 26 ltrs per 100ks, and it had 30000ks on the clock.
The 4.8 ltr petrol is
well under those figures.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:13
Saturday, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:13
The sad thing is that having a 3.0 was like playing Russian Roulette. Everyone I know who has a 3.0 has covered high km and tow a lot and never had any issues - though they all have in the back of their mind is their engine going to go but it never does.
I have heard of high fuel usage in the 3.0 before which indicates to me that the combustion system was never designed correctly and is overfueling - a design issue rather than a maintenance issue - yet the same basic engine in the Navara works fine.
Most smaller diesels are giving around 10-12l/100 but as you have indicated the 3.0 is considerably worse - by the way my forward control 3.5 V8 petrol landrover gives 20l/100km.
Maybe they should have put the Navara version in the Patrol and accepted the sight drop in performance.
We all need confidence in our vehicles and you seem quite happy with your 4.8 which is great.
Garry
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