Jackaroo

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Currently in search of a reasonably priced (under $20k) 4wd Auto diesel.

I am currently looking at a 2002 Jackaroo Nullarbor 3.0 TD, 160,000km.

Drives well and looks very sound. I will be using it as a tow vehicle as well as a daily driver, country driving. I have a small pop top, about 1ton fully loaded.

Any opinions welcome, good and bad.
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Reply By: Coongan - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 20:27

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 20:27
Hi Cary

I can highly recommend the Kia Sorento. We had an 05 model V6 petrol but it was an absolute pearler!! I used to cringe when i first bought it and people asked what i drove. Not now. They are also available in diesel as well if your set on that with a 5 sp tiptronic gearbox. Mine towed our tandem poptop about 2t all day loaded to the eyeballs, aircon on full in 40c+ temps. They are rated for 2.4t from memory and mine with the van on loaded did about 15l/100km sitting on 90/95. it would do 100 no probs but started getting pretty thirsty. They are hi and low range with shift on the move ( no stopping to engage hubs) handle really well and a pleasure to drive day to day. I paid 20k in 08 with 45k on the clock, i sold it late last year with just over a hundred for 16k. Check them out their great!!

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Phil
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Reply By: Madfisher - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:15

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:15
Gary Jacks are a good thing, unfortunalty the 4jxi motor along with the 3lt patrols one of less reliable motors. The petrols on the other hand are very reliable. Also the cost of expensive filters and servicing make it no cheaper to run then the petrols. Also some parts are supposed to be hard to get for this motor. Lots and lots of info on this motor at the Australia 4wd forum. Then go to the jack section.
by the way we have three Jacks, but the more reliable v6. In fact my wife has a Nullarbor, we picked it up a few years ago with 77k for $14000, has not missed a beat.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:17

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:17
Carry W, as you will be ware a Jackaroo is an Izusu. A Kia of any type is not in the same category. The 30l TD is a very efficient tow vehicle and I find mine a pleasure to drive on the open road and around suburbia. I would have bought a Nullarbor but I couldn't find one at the time. 10 l/100 highway, 11 l/100 around town and 15 l/100 towing a Coromal 535 pop top. Mine has done 153,000 and the only problem I have had in 53,000 km is a leaking tappet cover gasket.
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Follow Up By: Coongan - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:49

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:49
Hi Kevin

Have you owned a Sorento?? judging by your comments i think not. They are a fantastic car. I suffered the same narrow mindedness until i owned one. I bet head to head it would leave the jackeroo in its wake.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:25

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:25
And I might ask if you have ever owned a Jackaroo. My son owned a Kia Carnival. His problems with it will ensure that there is never another Kia in the family. But having said that I have met a small number of people along the road using a Kia as a tow vehicle and they have expressed satisfaction with them. But a Kia will not be on my shopping list.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:40

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:40
The Carnival had a Rover Engine and it was a disaster. As are most wet sleeve engines.

Other then that the Kia is ok and improving by the day as they are now owned by Huyndai

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Follow Up By: Coongan - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:59

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:59
Kevin

Im not the one casting aspersions about cars ive never owned. Maybe you should re read your comments because you contradict yourself.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:29

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:29
No Coongan, I haven't contradicted myself. I said why I would not buy a Kia and simply said that I had talked to people who were happy with them. If I bought every car that someone said they liked I wouldn't have room to park them. Similarly, if I bypassed every car that someone said was no good I wouldn't have a car at all. But there is another reason that I would not buy a Kia Sorento. It will not tow enough weight for my requirements.
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Follow Up By: Coongan - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 08:31

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 08:31
hi Kevin

Just for the record and so you can maintain a sense of proportion, the diesel Sorento tows 2800kg braked compared to the Jackaroo's 2500kg.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:02

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:02
Hi Coongan. Well, there you are. I obviously have not been paying enough attention to things Kia. But my sense of proportion is working fine. On carsales.com.au the cheapest diesel Kia I can find in Brisbane is about $37,000. That's about 3 Jackaroos. If I broaden the search to all of Queensland the cheapest is $22,900 at 165,000 km. That's about 2 Jackaroos. So I can blow up the motor in my diesel Jackaroo and buy another one for the price of the cheapest Kia Sorento diesel in Queensland and be able to wreck my blown up vehicle to sell spares and support the next one. I am happier than I realised.
Thanks Coongan.
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Reply By: Ruffy-Dan - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:23

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:23
The 4JX1 engine is well known for reliability issues.. It is not un common for turbos to fail, glow plugs to fail, heads to crack and even oil pressure issues. Having repaired my fair share of them i'd happily recommend anyone to steer clear of them.

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Follow Up By: Geoff H (Q - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:55

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 21:55
Agree with that one.

My uncle bought one because he got a lot of car for the bucks and it went well for 2 years until when he packed everything up for a trip to Birdsville the electrical problems started, the conrod knocked the starter motor off the block.

Luckily he kept his old 60 series.

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Reply By: outsider - Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 22:25

Sunday, Sep 18, 2011 at 22:25
We have close to 300,000k on our 1998 4jx1 jack and it had been a fantastic vehicle.
Have had a few minor problems with the motor, couple of sensors and a harness replaced which is think is fair enough for the age and distance covered.
The main engine problem is with those who cannot read the plaque in the engine bay which specifies the correct weight and spec oil to use.
I change my own oil as the moron mechanics always and i mean always just use what ever oil they happen to have rather then the correct grade.


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Follow Up By: get outmore - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:24

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:24
unless im mistaken the 98 had a different diesal donk 3.1 litre i think bit older school but as reliable as every other isuzu
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Follow Up By: outsider - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:37

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:37
my mistake - car is a 99 model 3.0L 4jx1 motor.
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Reply By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 09:44

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 09:44
Part of the problem with the reputation of the 3.0 L TD motor is that it has been around for a long time and every bad luck story has been retold so often that it has become folklore. Correct oil and professional servicing seems to be the key to me.

And people do love to share misery. The other day when I was stopped for morning tea in Morven a bloke walked all the way across the highway and a park to ask how my Jackaroo was going and to tell me a tale of woe about one that he used to own. I don't know what he drives now. I couldn't be bothered asking.
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Reply By: CSeaJay - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:00

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:00
Personally I would advise against a Jackaroo

As it is a discontinued car, the parts for it may be excessive

In fact the parts for the Jacks when it was indeed a cureent model was excessive

Serviceing and maintaining by Jack was twice as much as the two other 4wd I owned

CJ
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Reply By: Bazooka - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 14:56

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 14:56
Get a petrol 3.5l Jackaroo. Easily strong enough to tow your pop-top. Beautiful to drive, easy to maintain and parts not a problem so far - not that you'll need them in my experience. I have a 98 SE Jack.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:41

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:41
Spot on mate. I have a 98 3.5 that has only needed and inlet manifold gasket, blocked egr , shocks and I may need a new fuel pump which is only a few hundred. Not bad for a 13 years old car. My wifes 03 Nullarbor has been faultless, two front shocks with 111000ks and so has my sons 02 SE.
The only inherent problem it seems is fuel pumps giving trouble when hot at about 180000ks plus. This is a bit hard to pick up as I keep thinking it was blocked fuel filters , because it fixed the problem for a while.
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:36

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 19:36
DONT GO THERE.

The Jack Diesel is a disaster

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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:10

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 20:10
Wayne, why do you feel so strongly about that you shouted?
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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:01

Monday, Sep 19, 2011 at 21:01
Yep I do " DONT GO THERE"
I would even use a loud haler from the top of my soap box :-)

I have been involved in 100s of disputes over failed Jack engines. Most of which the customer ends up selling the vehicle for scrap because of the cost or rebuilding the engine is worth more then the vehicle.

Most of the Jacks are over 10 years old or over 160000km so there is no used car warranty in NSW. "dont go there" (whisper)

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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 14:46

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 14:46
I'm not going near the Diesel argument, except to say that when I bought my 2000
3.5 V6 there was enough anecdotal noise around to steer me clear. I wasnt too
confident about the V6, but after 70k of trouble free motoring I sing its praises. Now
has 140k. Nearly all those k's were towing a C/t & returns 15L/100 constantly when
kept under 100 kph. Still around for $10/12k with under 150k...no better value
real 4wd on the market. Best I can get,local country driving is 12/13L per 100k.
cheers....oldbaz.
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Reply By: Cary W - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 16:18

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 16:18
Well Guys after all that and other forums I have looked at the Jack TD is a scratching.

Will look at other options.


Thanks to all who offered advise.

Much appreciated.

Caz
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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 20:24

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2011 at 20:24
Look for a 80 series Cruiser should be able to pick one up for around $9000 Upwards.
A mate just payed $25000 for a 1993 turbo diesel with only 160000km on the clock. One owner looked like a New Vehicle.

Pleased you took the advice on the Jack

Cheers
Wayne B.
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