REAR VIEW TOWING CAMERAS
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mossmac
Has anyone got the perfect set up?. I would like to have towball view and rear view to see who's approaching from the rear without having towingmirrors. I do have an older model gps but was wondering if the new combo units (GPS, Rearview cameras with split screen all in one) was the way to go. Can anyone recommend anything from their own experiences.
Reply By: Hi-ryder - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 07:10
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 07:10
I have a a set up on
mine . One monitor (Not GPS) with av1 and av2 so av1 is just above the tow ball . av2 is a second channel which is the van . No need for split screen. As soon as i connect the van it automatically goes to av2 . The monitor cost $25 dollors from ebay . Been in car now six months no problems. I have the monitor above my rear view mirror on a switch . But you must make sure you buy a unit with two channels . And you run two sets of rca cables from the monitor to the back of the car . It has been the best thing i have done . Hook up is now a breeze. Hope that helps
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:27
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:27
Hi Hi Ryder,
Can you give us a bit more info re your system please.
Price, albeit 6 months ago, make, model, size etc. etc.
Any info would be helpful.
Many thanks, Bruce.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:25
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:25
Hi Mossmac,
I had a similar setup in my 80 series cruiser to Hy ryder but the monitor is a roof mounted 7" unit which flips down.
From what I have read the camera needs to be CCD for continuous viewing.
The difference is one is a reversing camera and the other is a rear view camera
The CMOS ones are not designed for continuous use as they can over heat if one for prolonged periods, according to my information, but are OK for reversing.
CCD is OK for any situation apparently.
Ebay is about the cheapest you will find although the prices are all over the place depending on what you want..
I now have a 100 series and am thinking of one of the all in one units to fit in the double din radio housing but have not made up my mind yet. The 100 series has a roof console and I don't want to disturb things too much so the small monitor above the mirror sounds like a good idea there Hi Ryder.
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Follow Up By: Hi-ryder - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:17
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:17
The idea of the monitor above the mirror is so the heat wont kill it . and also quick vision . My main concern was to keep it out of sight and heat .
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Follow Up By: Hi-ryder - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:27
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:27
sorry just read all of your post . The double dins are great . I have a triton(2005) single din so that was not a option . The old man has a 2008 Triton they come out with double din . The only down side with them is you have to manualy change the plug after hook up becuse most of the in dash units are only one channel . No biggy really you have to plug in your seven pin anyway . I have just done this to the old mans triton but left the camera plug on a longer lead so you can change it over with ease . Not sure ethier of the double din if the camera is on the music might cut out . if you planed on using it like a full time camera .Not sure i will find out today im fitting his van with a camera .
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/18-IR-LED-NIGHT-VISION-CAR-REAR-VIEW-REVERSING-CAMERA-/220810387058?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3369531e72
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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:50
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:50
we have the CCD camera mounted on the rear of the van and the screen replaces our rear view mirror in the LC200, we used to have a separate camera mounted near the tow bar of the Jeep but didnt have to worry with the Cruiser as it has one in built that comes up on s centre screen whenever we hit reverse.
PS rear view camera and screen fully approved by the WA Police as a replacement for the towing mirrors before someone says its illegal. We actually have a far more stable view than we ever had before.
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Follow Up By: Ian & Sue - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:51
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 08:51
The CCD camera was around the $150 I think and the screen wss about the same - I will have to fish out the receipts to
check.
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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:41
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:41
Your Mr Plod in WA may say that but the national rules say you must be able to clearly see down BOTH SIDES of your rig and you cant do that with just a camera and normal towing mirrors even on a 200.
Mr Clearview mirrors wouldnt be making a pile selling owners his mirrors if they werent needed.
Imagine a motorbike just ahead of the rear of your van Bet you cant see that in either the camera or the mirrors.
Or a small kid leaning up against the back of the van right under the camera.
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:50
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:50
Who needs towing mirrors on a 200? My van is the same width as the cruiser (slightly less actually) so no need for towing mirrors. All depends on the size of your van I suppose. And I do have a reverse camera too, it works
well :)
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:53
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:53
Forgot to add, whats a small kid leaning up on a van got to do with anything? There is NO chance any sort of side mirror would help that, the only chance of seeing that would be a rear camera.
Cheers
Camera
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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 10:00
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 10:00
My camera was above head height on the van and certainly couldnt see anyone directly underneath it.
A reasonable assumption in a van park that a kid could walk behind as you were reversing.
Most vans are almost 2400mm wide and a Cruiser is no where near that.
Not everyone tows narrow ones.
A camera is considered an aid Clear line of sight is a requirement and has been a bone of contention forever.
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Reply By: mossmac - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:11
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:11
Thanks Guys,
I am glad that there is a way of doing it, but I was hoping for a bit more detailed info...... Type of cameras at towball and on van, costs, where to buy, monitor size etc. If there was a complete system available.
Hoping someone can help
Regards mossmac
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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:45
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:45
Google " Safety Dave" for a system
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 10:04
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 10:04
Hi Mossmac,
If you follow the links that Hy Ryder put in his reponse to my request for more info most of your questions will be answered.
Type of camera = CCD infrared for night time and daytime
Monitor = LCD, others may be able to enlighten you further on type of monitor, I don't know if there are any other types.
Hy Ryder also provided a link to a 10 metre cable to run from the back of the car to the cabin and monitor. Or from the back of the van to the tow bar for connection to the car.
I wired up my van using a good quality quad shield TV aerial cable and "F" connectors utilising RCA adapters to join the system from the van to the car.
Properly fixed with saddles and clips it has provided no problems for a number of years now.
I setup a reverse circuit to the rear of the van to power the van camera but you could set up a switched permanent 12 volt supply to the van camera if you wanted it to be a rear view camera.
Hope this helps,
Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Hi-ryder - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 18:45
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 18:45
Hi Bruce i fitted his camera on the van and alot of other jobs today . Its thier first van in about 20 years lol . The double din shuts off radio when the camera is on. Bit of a bugger if you wanted to use it as a full time moniter. Saying that i still like the double din ones . So i still have options left ethier leave the car on the double din moniter and run a seprate moniter for the van or put the in car moniter (double din ) on a switch so every now and then he can
check back on the van one . Hourses for courses really . hope that helps cheers .
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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 19:16
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 19:16
Depending on the type of input cable you may be able to put a switchbox on the original input.
If so the unit wont know which camera and should function normally.
Jaycar sell the required bits
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 02, 2011 at 08:22
Sunday, Oct 02, 2011 at 08:22
Good one there Hy Ryder. First van in 20 years, I'll bet they are over the moon about it.
Yep, with regard to the double din unit in place of the radio I was trying to leave my vehicle standard but there are not too many options as the space between dash and windscreen is limited with regard to obscuring road view. and as you say they are not without their problems.
Anyway, thanks for the info, very helpfull
You have given Mossmac a bit to chew on there.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Reply By: paulnsw - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:58
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 09:58
Use this
rear view mirror replacement and 1 camera underneath the tray and another camera on the caravan at bumper bar height 1/3 distance from the right hand side which is the optimum position for the camera on the caravan.
On the caravan have
this CCD camera and
this camera under the tray.
Both are CCD as they give better colour and quality of picture.
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Reply By: Bluefin48 - Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 11:36
Saturday, Oct 01, 2011 at 11:36
I brought
mine from "Safety Daves" Number plate camera above tow ball, saved my marriage, just joking, and camera on back of van, three years old,still working great. From memory $450 approx.
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