Calling Navara D22 owners

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:10
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Just getting back into the 4wd scene again after selling our 4runner earlier this year. We're looking at a few vehicles, one of which is an 05 Navara D22 ST-R with the 3.0 TD engine. I'd be interested in hearing what owners think of their vehicle. How does it rate when it comes to;

1. offroad capability - power & torque adequate?
2. Reliability
3. Fuel economy - not a major concern but interested to know
4. Towing ability. I have a 1800kg boat and may also tow a camper trailer
5. comfort on a long trip
6. Any other info / advice you can offer

This vehicle has done 142000km and is in pretty good nick.

Thanks

Louie
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:33

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:33
Hi Louie

Have 3 friends who have had them , each had a turbo related issue.

1st has got a new V6 D40 (total screamer - even with 3 t boat)

2nd has a new 2.5lt D40 also auto - going well , bit heavy or fuel

3rd Won't touch them again and now has advenurter and an old 60 series.

Main non engine issues were a weak front end , broken shock mounts and linkages (even after after market better bits fitted).

Fuel consumption was overall very good - the new auto D40's use more.


Generally, a distinct lack of torque off idle - chip proved useful

I'd be concerned about even the lower tuned 3lt zd30 engines and be sure to have a backup plan / warranty.





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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:58

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:58
Robin

Had a 2003 Navara, but from new.."Tough as"
In saying that, I too have had people come up to me and say "never again".
Our Experience was a good one, and I bumped into the bloke I sold it too, and he thanked me for it (3 years later...wow !)

Had very bad turbo lag, which forced me away from dealer, as they could not fix problem. Went to a "real deisel tuning place".,,, and it came out like a different vehicle.

Never boosted over 18 psi, no matter what.
I also put a2 /12inch straight thru exhaust on it..
Didn't need a chip..... That thing flew.

Only reason I got rid of it in the end, was because of continual back trouble, even with the modified suspension. (raised, and Ride Pro H.D. leaf kit, with poly Air Bags)
Since I have got the Pooootrol 99 % back pain gone.

Fuel was 9.2-9.5 km/lt
Towing @ 100 km/hr was 6.5 km/lt


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Follow Up By: bazz - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:11

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:11
hi, the earlier model Nissans were made in Japan, its when they shifted production overseas about 05/06 that the troubles began, if you can find a good 3l td , before the shift then generally reliable, later model 2.5s can have relaibility issues, but note so do later model Hi -luxes with common rail diesel , sometimes newer is not allways better, i'm on my 4th Nissan, 3.3 MQ swb , 4.2 Safari, 2.7 Navara, & now 4.2 Patrol,never had any major issues with any of them, CRD injecter systems don't tolerate fuel contamination too well, and can lead to costly repairs hence my preference for the older mechanical injecter system, not as efficient as CRD but relaible and cheaper to fix as well, will tolerate fuel contamination especially water in fuel, go to the Nissan web site , you will find a minefield of info, Regards Barry
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Follow Up By: louie the fly - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:23

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:23
Bazz, this one we're looking at was built in Japan. My wife's dad had a later one (D44?) that was made in Spain. Build quality was a bit iffy. Reliability wise, I think it was OK. He no longer has it.

Louie.
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Follow Up By: coley62 - Sunday, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:18

Sunday, Oct 09, 2011 at 10:18
Hi Louie

I have two D22 an 05 and 08 year, both have had no trouble with . Regularly tow up to about 2.3tonne around Melb. 05 has about 170,000kms and 08 about 80,000kms. Get around 10L per 100km out of both and about 14-15 when towing. Both have been thru the simpson and high country without any problems.

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Reply By: Fiona & Paul - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 12:25

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 12:25
Louie

We have one of those animals (2004-5?) for, using for 12 months and happy as Larry. I got rid of the Forester X as it wasn't big enough to do the job for me with a biggere van 1200kg.

Done 205,000KM and I have my mechanics (also mates now) keep everything in check, so they got it right up to speed but could not fix one problem, when it used to miss & splutter a bit around the 2800-2900rpm in 3rd or 4th. At my insistence they checked the Turbo and it seemed OK. Off to Quilpie and back when I reported hearing a slight 'bang' on the way home, another check 'bolt' missing off Turbo so I get them to whack another turbo in, $2,000 and that will fix everything. Wrong, off on very long WA trip and two hours into the trip even Fiona picked up 'that same miss' - she got a bit mad because of the $$$$'s, but I managed to cover up the problem by pulling right or pushing left on the gear stick (becomes relevant later) and I managed the whole 8.500km without any repeats of the 'missing' and the bride was happy.

Back home and back to my mechanical team, they were mortified but I was cool and said 'we haven't fixed the problem yet' - much research with Google led us to replace a $75 Neutral Gear Switch in/on or around the gearbox and we found an information sheet from Nissan on the ger lever trick (that was busted and I didn't know - nor did the genius mates) - apparently if you lose power/pressure or whatever from the turbo (about 10-15lbs I think) around thoe above RPM of 2800-2900, just flick the gearstick left or right and the pressure is temporarilly supplied again, as long as you hold the gearstick there will be no missing - that's how I fooled the bride.

It runs very well now and I use Yokahama tyres for lower noise on the black top.

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Reply By: louie the fly - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:08

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:08
Thanks for the feedback so far. We're also looking at some Tritons of around the same vintage. Test drove a Rodeo (petrol auto) and was very unimpressed.

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Reply By: gbc - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 14:43

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 14:43
There is a nissan navara forum (navara.asia.com) - check out what they have to say. The d22 is prone to similar issues as the patrol - cracked heads etc etc. With the mileage that one has on it I'd be getting it checked out very thoroughly before buying a $7k repair bill.
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 16:18

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 16:18
The CDI are having trouble with injectors and blowing black smoke.
Only the Autos have a DPF filter fitted. Clutch is also been a cause of concern.

IMOP they drive very well and have reasonable performance and economy. Reported to be from 9 to 13 Lts per 100. Towing capacity is greater then the vehicle really likes to tow. This may have been revised down on the later version, I am not sure.

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Reply By: Meggs - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 18:38

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 18:38
I was checking one out to tow my 1500Kg van but went away from it as they have clutch issues when towing and it has a very high first gear. The D40 has a better gear ratio.

Mine was the later model so you better check what I said applied to your model.
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Follow Up By: Dough Boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 22:38

Thursday, Oct 06, 2011 at 22:38
I have a 2010 D22 , 2.5 CRD
Ride quality was at best poor, enter OME , massive difference !
Installed Long Ranger tank , now get nearly 12oo km per tank , much better!
Only issue in 12 months , and a biggy too......Had the entire common rail replaced a month ago (under warranty)According to Nissan, the new high pressure common rails dont like any impurities in the fuel at all !
Other than that the ute goes fine, long trips are comfortable and its more than capable off road . My previous vehicle was a GU Patrol, so I was a little nervous about the Navaras off road credentials but havent been dissapointed yet !
hope this is helpful
Dough Boy
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Reply By: louie the fly - Monday, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:10

Monday, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:10
Thanks all. We've gone cold on the Navara. My FIL had someone from a Nissan dealer look at it. Turns out they sold it new. It's a bit overpriced for the kms and had a few "issues" so we've changed direction.

Can't wait to get a vehicle though and get back into doing some touring and camping. And maybe spending a bit of time back on the forum.

Louie
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Follow Up By: Member - Drew P (VIC) - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:12

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 22:12
For information:

Have had my D22 since 2008 (2003 model - second hand) and just travelled 6k through outback SA. It didn't miss a beat. Current done over 160k without major concerns. My credit goes to my mechanic (friend).
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