What size when buying a winch?

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 18:21
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I have had a search, and can't find too much info or discussion on the best size of winch for the 4b.

I have a Ford Maverick TD42 LWB, with a long range fuel tank, draws, fridge, and other and miscellaneous bits and pieces. I don't intend to do bigs heaps of stuff where I am going to need one on a regular basis, just an infrequent user if you like.

Don't advise me to go and but a Tirfor, I already have one, and they are too much bloody work.

I have already decided on a Warn Electric, now I would like to tap in the wealth of knowledge in here and get some recommendations on size (we all know that size really does matter)

I am not sure whether to get a 10,000, 9,500 or 9,000lb. Help!!!!
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Reply By:- Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 20:04

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 20:04
I've got a troopy and a 10 000lb (hydraulic).

Once, before i got the winch, (on a really steep hill) a hilux mate with an 8000lb Warn, could not manage to do the job, we had no choice but to snatch block the pull, whereas I can do the same grade with the 10 000lber with no trouble at all.

Lesson from that for me was that bigger is better, others may disagree...
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Follow Up By:- Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 20:04

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 20:04
Unfortuantley I still appear to be nameless, but I'm Chopper.
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Reply By: ron1 - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 21:04

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 21:04
i think it all come down to what she can do for you? and what shes like in bed helps , opps you said winch not wench sorry my mistake , ill be going now :) ROFL
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Follow Up By: Big Trev - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 21:36

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 21:36
It's OK Ron, my comment about size abviously confused you. LOL :-)
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Follow Up By: ron1 - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:08

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:08
no fair it was cold when i measured :)
nice come back trev lol
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Reply By: Brad - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 21:54

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 21:54
I have a petrol LC100 with similar additions.
Traction 4 have advised a 9500lbs, because it fits most modern bars and therefore could be taken to the next vehicle. Like you I would be an occasional user, so I don't think having to use a 2:1 or 3:1 blocks would be too critical ??
(I'm a beginner so I'm offering this as a question for the experienced out there).
Regards,
Brad.
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:08

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:08
G'day Big Trev,

A 10,000lb would be the go but I am sure the 9500lb would also suffice. Always carry a snatchblock with you to double up them pulling strength. I have a 9500 on my old truck and it works a treat. In years gone by I had an 8000lb Warn on my FJ 55 and it worked well but had to use the snatchblock on quite a few occassions. I agree with your sentiments on a Tirfor. I flogged mine and went electric a long while ago.

Cheers,

Willem

Always going somewhere
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Reply By: Member - Richard- Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:23

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:23
Brawn recommended 9000 for my Frontera and you are much bigger than me so 10,000 would have to be the go.Richard and Leonie, The grey nomads.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:45

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:45
Theres a good low mount 10,000lb forsale on Outerlimits forsale section

Andrew the bloke selling is VERY honest and good to deal with, I think he is on here too.

Go with the 10,000 I got one on my LWB GQ..

Dont bother with new, WELL over priced, and you can get for $1200 second hand.

Either that or a Highmount.
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Reply By: duncs - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:47

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:47
Big Trev.

I have a GU TD4.2T and tow a camper trailer. I have decided to go for a 9500HS. The reasoning behind this decision is as follows. Having had winches before and used them more than once I find that it is raer to need the full capacity of the winch. A short pull with the ability to assist that by driving has got me out of most places. When you do need the grunt it is not usually for a long pull. The 9500HS has a line speed nearly double that of the 10000 so most of the time it will be faster and when you do need some guts put a snatch block in. Now you have nearly twice the pull of the 10000 and still have a decent line speed.

Also the 9500 is considerably lighter than the 10000. Now some have advised me to get the 15000 with my set up but that is rediculously heavy,slow and expensive for the number of times it will ever get used.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: John - Friday, Dec 05, 2003 at 14:14

Friday, Dec 05, 2003 at 14:14
I have a 9500 HS on my Troopy for the very reason duncs has stated.

Used it out of a very deep bog worked like a charm.

John
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Reply By: duncs - Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:48

Thursday, Dec 04, 2003 at 22:48
Big Trev.

I have a GU TD4.2T and tow a camper trailer. I have decided to go for a 9500HS. The reasoning behind this decision is as follows. Having had winches before and used them more than once I find that it is raer to need the full capacity of the winch. A short pull with the ability to assist that by driving has got me out of most places. When you do need the grunt it is not usually for a long pull. The 9500HS has a line speed nearly double that of the 10000 so most of the time it will be faster and when you do need some guts put a snatch block in. Now you have nearly twice the pull of the 10000 and still have a decent line speed.

Also the 9500 is considerably lighter than the 10000. Now some have advised me to get the 15000 with my set up but that is rediculously heavy,slow and expensive for the number of times it will ever get used.

Duncs
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Reply By: ceredig - Friday, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:55

Friday, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:55
Hi Big Trev,
There's a lot of good stuff on this thread, but did you know that for some reason the rules of advertising 4b winches is different from industrial applications. In particular, winches are not subject to having a safety factor and they do not differentiate between working load and breaking load. The quoted line pull is what you get. But, read the specs carefully. Do you know that "Mud Puller" or whatever its name is? A new hand winch that uses a chain and will pull you out of the mud. Its advertised at a high number of tonnes (can't rember how many). But that is the breaking load, not the working load, of the chain! The winch itself can only pull about half that. (False advertising or what!)

The message is.... GET THE BIGGER WINCH!

P.S.
Go for Hydraulic.

P.P.S.
Diff locks get you into trouble...
Winches get you out of trouble.
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