Jackaroo vs Bravo off road
Submitted: Friday, Nov 11, 2011 at 21:46
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James G1
Hi all,
I'm looking at the Holden Jackaroo 3.5V6 and the diesel mazda b series dual cab utes. when using for off road acitvity i will mainly be on sand and bush tracks.
Just wondering which would be the best off road, any modifications to make it better, maintenance issues and reliabilty
Much appreciated
James
Reply By: Kimba10 - Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 15:23
Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 15:23
Mate both ok off road, alot depends on what you need from the vehicle. You have chosen 2 totally different vehicles so depending on your needs. The jacks go like a dog shot up the ar** and arent to bad on the fuel either for a V6 (better then prado) have great flex off road in the rear end, front slighty limited been IFS but basically the same limits as prado,pajero, including the mazda. The mazda is leaf spring rear ?? wont flex like the jack, Ive sat in a jack but not driven it and found it extremely comfortable, fairly quit (unless you giving it to it but same as any vehicle) and road along very nicely. The mazda will be still like any ute, made for a load so will be not as smooth, buck around a lot more off road (not so bad when loaded basing my experiance between the lux and prados I had) The 2 issues with the V6 jack is inlet manifold gasket (not a dear repair) and only yesterday found out fuel pumps can be an issue when they get a few klms on them but a very underated forgotten 4wd, great value for money. Post on here yesterday about the V6 jack. These motors have been known to do over the 500k mark, bet you wouldnt get that out of the diesel without some issues costing more then the inlet manifold gasket and pump ?? I would recomend a
suspension upgrade on any 4wd based on your intended use. I had a canopy on the lux for more luggage space (not sure you have one again depending on intended use) I had 170L
water tank in lux but no way can I carry/find a place for it in a prado. I miss the ute's versatility and room, but I like the comfort level more on the prado, we are towing van next trip so room as such wont be an issue as we will store it in van. The ute was great with our two dogs (sheperd & rottie) wet smeely dogs covered in sand, throw in back of ute, hose the dogs and the ute out when we got
home no problems, prado forget it........Either will handle sand or bush tracks as your mentioned. Only thing I can see is you need to make up your mind on intended use and then go for it. I would have no hesitations going back to a ute only wife stilll likes the prado more for every day stuff....
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 16:42
Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 16:42
Very good advice their
Kimba. The only thing I can add is the early 3.5s where the ones with the manifold gasket problem 98 and 99 I think. fuel pump issues are closer to 200000ks, bit of a pain as the tank has to come out but the pump itself was only a couple of hundred. Also dirty duel or water will hasten their end. I believe i got a crook batch of fuel some time ago and caused the problem.
Can be a bit hard to dianogise as only plays up when quite hot and no
check engine lights come on. I did try the tester on
mine but the damm thing would not play up when hooked up.
The rear end flex of the Jack is superb. Both are good vehicles as long as they have a service history. Would love to have a drive in a 3.5 with extractors etc and cold air induction they love to breath.
Mine you the latest TD leave them for dead.
Cheers pete
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Reply By: gbc - Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 19:35
Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 19:35
I drove a new B series on a beach 4wd training course for 2 days. For a ute of that era it was great on the road, and once wound up went perfectly
well. I will say that they suffer a little from turbo lag and are a bit peaky in power delivery. Something a v6 won't suffer from. Most of the lag you can drive around, and once up and spinning they are little steam trains. Recovering from sand is a different story - Getting the wheels turning gently when bogged is not the most controllable excercise you've ever done once the turbo decides it's ON, and there's not much to play with below the boost point. It wouldn't stop me from getting one, but how I drove and recovered it in sand would differ slightly.
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Reply By: James G1 - Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 22:36
Saturday, Nov 12, 2011 at 22:36
Cheers for the Awesome advice guys...
my uses will be for going around the northern suburbs of
Perth, to and from work/uni and i will be off-roading with Pajero's and Discovery's and things like that
But i like the B-series coz of how much stuff you can fit in it and i like the jack as it is a wagon, good off road, comfy etc...
but yeh really just wondering now about power and reliability
and maybe some off road capability of the Mazda
Thanks heaps guys
James
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