Waeco CF 80 litre

I am interested in oppinions on the Waaeco CF 80 Litre fridge 2007. I have the chance to buy one second hand but have heard mixed reports about the waeco as opposed to the Engel which i hanve only relaaay heard good things about.

Any real life experiences would be appreciated
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Reply By: Tom C - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:42

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:42
I Wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. I had a 30l and 60l and they both expired just out of warranty, while we were out in the bushes. They are loaded with circuit boards of questionable quality, which is just more to go wrong. I replaced them with Engels and had no problems. Don't buy it, spend the extra and get a better quality fridge and you will not be let down.
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Follow Up By: Jason J1 - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:56

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:56
Thanks for your honesty Tom
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Follow Up By: Fatso - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:22

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:22
I wouldn't touch one either Tom.
The only good thing about them is that for people who like Engel's they drove their price down when they hit the market.
I'm a Trailblazer man. Waeco has virtually no effect on their market.
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 17:11

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 17:11
The CF80 and CF110 both use the bigger Danfoss compressor, the BD35? or something like that.

All I remember from my experience of owning one is they chew batteries harder than my 5 yo grand son when he nicks my Dolphin torch!

Think seriously how you are going to keep up charging the battery if you are camped for any length of time. (Greater than 24 hours with a 105 AHr AGM in moderately warm weather)

The other thing, you'll get told to buy a thermal bag/cover/wrap to improve its efficiency. That is an admission of defeat before you hand over any cash in my book.

Been there once, never again.

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Follow Up By: Member - Krakka - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 17:31

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 17:31
Don't know how old your Waeco was Geoff, but the newer 110lt with the digital temp display only uses half the power of the older models, I have both and have been very happy. Have had the first one for 9 yrs and the second one for 3 yrs, have never missed a beat.
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig F (WA) - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:44

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:44
I have had my 80ltr waco for over three years now. It runs of my 80amph battery and is charged off my petrol hilux with no issues to date it sits in the tray of my car under a black cover. As for the thermal bag dont the other brands sell them too ????????

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Follow Up By: ross - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 at 19:49

Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 at 19:49
Ive had my 80 lt waeco for 3-4 years,it come with a trayback camper in used condition. Its had to have the button panel replaced which was cheap enough.
Im guessing its about 8-9years old

Ive taken it to several remote areas and numerous camping trips and it hasnt let me down.
Ive have a 100 amp AGM battery and it keeps it going for a couple of days.
Ive got the older type with the 7 lights and usually leave it on 3 lights,so it does its job on less than half.

The thing I like about the 80 lt waeco is the width and low depth. Other fridges Ive had are all depth and you are forever turning things over to get to items at the bottom.

I cant see what the big deal is over having a cover,it keeps it cooler and keeps the case in good condition and it doesnt rub against other gear.

I would definately buy another if I need to replace it.
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:45

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:45
Have a real good think about the bag and what it's sold to do.

Straight from the Waeco website:
"The insulating protective cover makes your CoolFreeze cooler fit for tough challenges. The cover protects the valuable appliance from moisture, dust and dirt. It also provides effective insulation, improving the energy consumption and the unit's cooling capacity by a full 2°C."

Particularly this bit: "It also provides effective insulation"

In other words, the insulation you buy with the fridge cabinet by Waeco's own admission is ineffective.

I have no problems with protecting the investment from damage but being told it needs external insulation in a plus $1,000 investment? No thanks.

There are plenty of more efficient units in and around the same price point that don't need external insulation to make them function.

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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 14:01

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 14:01
Any fridge will perform better with more insulation. Even a towel thrown over the top is an improvement.
.A 80 lt weaco with the cover is still cheaper than a 80 litre engel

And loe and behold ,what is this piece of info from a Engel vendor

"The Genuine Engel Transit Bag is a heavy duty canvas insulated cover that protects your investment from bumps and scratches maintaining its resale value. It increases the 'cold hold down' time overnight."

LOL Looks like Waeco are not the only one to recommend an insulation bag
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 14:40

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 14:40
Exactly! Do your own research and actually think about what you are buying.

And were did I actuallly endorse any product beyond answering the original posters question?

You've gotta love the fan boys!
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Follow Up By: Member - Craig F (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 15:06

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 15:06
So what is your point Geoff,

When camping at christmas in South West Australia the temps are up to 38 deg. In the Pilbara 40+. At home in Perth in the Garage 40+. Whats wrong with helping the efficencys of the fridge by insulating it and putting it in the shade?
Real not sure how your coment relates ONLY to the Waeco fridge as the Engle, ARB and Ironman fridges all Have transit bags.

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Follow Up By: ross - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 15:50

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 15:50
I cant see what the hang up some people have over an insulation bag.Its light,it doesnt damage other items it rubs against,and it works.
Whether the insulation is permanently fixed or whether its partially removal doesnt make an ounce of difference.
Waeco have always been a top performer against other brands since they were introduced into australia
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Follow Up By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 17:40

Wednesday, Nov 16, 2011 at 17:40
"Real not sure how your coment relates ONLY to the Waeco fridge as the Engle, ARB and Ironman fridges all Have transit bags."

Now you're catching on!

The argument is why should I pay a substantial sum of money for a piece of equipment to be told I then need to buy an external device to make it functional.

Obviously MY experiences which is what the original poster asked for, personal experiences on a product have irritated a few.

Is this hard to understand?
Think about your use, think about its qualities or lack thereof, think about the true cost of ownership, think about what you are going to ask the product to do.

Then pick the brand. Don't pick the brand then try to make it fit the use.

Sheesh, someone asked a question and the answer didn't fit popular opinion!
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Follow Up By: ross - Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:20

Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:20
Geoff ,they still function satisfactorily without an insulation bag.Some people use mobile fridges indoors for their low power consumption,or as I do,as a bar fridge, and they dont need the bag.
If you want permanent thick insulation around a fridge you will end up with a bulkier ,heavier fridge.
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Reply By: Gossy - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 17:13

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 17:13
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It's like asking what tyre is best! Human nature for some people is to recommended what they have and rubbish everything else.

Waeco have been in the industry for a long long time though they are fairly 'new' in Aust. Reviews on fridges show that 90% of the different brands use the same motor anyway so sometimes it's a simple case of which one has better insulation etc.

Waeco haven't been around for this long because they make a crap product so it's unfair for anyone to say they are rubbish. There would be thousands of happy users in Australia with their fridge.

I have family members with Engels that are very old, had a tough life and still going strong. Personally I have a Waeco that has had a tough long life and is still going strong as well as mates who bought theirs because of the postive feedback I had for mine.

They are both good products so I'd recommened you research them yourself but ignore very one sided comments as they simply are not correct either way ("they're brilliant and don't buy anything else" or "they're crap, don't buy it").

Any big brand fridge that is a reasonable price 2nd hand and you know it's history is a good buy.
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Follow Up By: Jason J1 - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:14

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:14
I appreciate your thoughts Gossy....I am just open to peoples ideas, thougths and experiences as a part of my research.....its the beauty of technology. I do understand that it all needs to be put in perspective and itis all good information to consider.
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Reply By: Dreadnought - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:04

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:04
Waeco or Engel?.........Toyota or Nissan?...........BF Goodrich or Coopers?.........Honda or Yamaha? There's always for and against for everything like this and people will have horror stories for both. At the end of the day, if it suits your purpose, it's in good condition and the price is right.....Just buy it...............
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Follow Up By: Member - Rick P (NT) - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:55

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:55
You hit the nail right on the head there.
same same we had a 70lt Waeco for 10 years, sold it a couple of years ago to a mate and it is still going great guns, sorry to sell it but we bought a 110lt Waeco and after a spending time getting the freezer wall at the right hight we have it sitting at 3c with very little trouble and we lived in Darwin.
They tell me that the new Engel are noisy and not built as well.
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Reply By: woozle - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:14

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 18:14
Had 80l sold it within three months. It is a fridge freezer not a freezer as the condenser is wraped around less than half of the fridge cavity ( did not know that wh4en I ordered it) It ran quietly but did have a bit of trouble keeping the temp down on the hot days. Have now got one of the ARB ones also made by Dometic and this appears to be a much better fridge. It also depends what they want for this one I had trouble getting $750 for mine with the cover at only three months old and looking like new
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Reply By: Tonyfish#58 - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 19:04

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 19:04
Had mine for 5 years, has been a good unit. Keeping power up to it the only issue. It can be used as all fridge, or all freezer by removing the slide out dividers or fridge & freezer with them in. It has worked well with all those choices with me.

I run it on max when plugged into 240 or while driving. I turn it down to 3 or 4 lights overnight. I drove around Australia without another power source this way. I did stop a couple of nights at accommodation where I did plug it into 240 and took the opportunity to charge the batteries.

When in a long camp I have 2 x 105amp hr deep cycles fed by a 120w portable folding solar panel and one camper mounted 80w panel. I do the same, run it on max during the day while the panels are feeding it and as soon as the solar is no longer charging I just start turning it down until at night I am on 3 lights. With this setup & method I can run as long as I want on the batteries & solar.

I have a backup 15amp smart charger which I can hook to a 1kva Yamaha inverter gen set if I need to for any reason.

You will only get one full day and half a night out of a fully charged 105 amp hr battery, without further charging.

As said above some love them, some hate them, some sit on the fence :-)

I like mine and can say it has been a good unit

Cheers Tony
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Reply By: Isuzumu - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 19:45

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 19:45
Had mine now for ten years and have just replaced the lid, they do buckle $90, great fridge/freezer would buy another tomorrow.
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:47

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:47
I have a 40 litre Engel and CF40 Waeco – for the past few years have used both side by side in the back of my Troopy. The Waco goes into error in very hot situations and also is more temperamental if you have low voltage. Don’t know about the CF80 but in my situation the 40 litre Engel has about 25% larger capacity than the Waeco CF40 due to its larger evaporator.
Regards Dennis
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Reply By: asmithy - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:16

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:16
had my 80l waeco now since 2002, no problems and plenty of use!

would buy another tomorrow...

only my 2 bobs worth.

cheers and all thebest with it!
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Reply By: Kimba10 - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:40

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:40
Had our waeco for well over 5 years had one issue with it and that was the thermistor but was fixed under warranty and hasnt missed a beat since and is running virtually 24/7. It has been used as a freezer running at -12 with ice cream,ice blocks,meat etc with external temps of mid to high 30s and never faulted when we have been away. I would buy either but I liked the 5 year warranty I got with the waeco compared to Engel's 3, I dont have to worry about dents or rust as per the engel. They had one on display where we bought the waeco (4wd show) and the first thing we noticed was a big dent in the side of it and surface rust where the paint had been gauged, I told the bloke it wasnt really a great demo for him to have out on display, he gave me a filthy look so that was also enough for me to go and buy a weaco and was cheaper for a larger capacity. Would I have an Engel ?? yes they also now have a electronic controller which is great like the waeco you set and forget, not like the older Engel where your adjusting temps by the dial depending on the ambient temp none of that crap with the weaco or the newer Engel. Also ran mine for just over a week as a freezer in summer when we were in the Vic high country and that was off my 750cca start battery as my dual controller had shat itself and didnt have time to replace before we left home. Had no issues starting the next day. Like above asking about these two brands is like nissan/ toyota. Buy what suits you and whaat you can afford. At the end of the day as long as it does its job who gives a rats what brand it is............
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Reply By: Whirlwinder - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:52

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:52
Hi Jason,
We have had our 80 litre Waeco for 5 years and it has not missed a beat. I even bought it from Waeco seconds shop. It has been bumped and crashed all over the place and always has the beer cold at days end. It has a Danfoss 50 compresser.
I have never had an Engel but I believe they too are good.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Wheretonext - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 22:28

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 22:28
Ditto, Had mine for three years. Bought direct from Waeco's online "seconds shop" has not missed a beat.

Shane
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Reply By: CSeaJay - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 23:03

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 23:03
We have the Weaco CF80

Had it since 2003 I think
Have done many rough trips, including 3x Cape Yoprk, the OTL all three times.
Have a family of 5, always opening, always full as we go remote.

Yes when the freezer is packed full, there is less "cold"going to the fridge with our family often oepning/closing

But as freezer is used less, better economy on keeping the fridge cold.

Reliable - never skipped a beat. Replaced the latches - cheap

Yes lid is now starting to buckle a bit, so am I with ge and misuse ;-)

Would I get one again? Probably change to an ARB one because I like change, not because I was unhappy with the Weaco

Would I recommend one? Yes

Cheers

CJ
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Follow Up By: Jason J1 - Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 23:06

Monday, Nov 14, 2011 at 23:06
Thanks for the hones assessment CJ
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 at 20:06

Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 at 20:06
CJ, I found with mine if I want to freeze and have a cold fridge take the top divider out, doing this for ten years and still going strong.
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Reply By: Coenen N & G (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 at 19:49

Tuesday, Nov 15, 2011 at 19:49
We bought one new at a show one year and gave it a good try out on a couple of long trips. We found that using it as a fidge/freezer that the fridge part wasnt cold enough as the cool air didnt seem to get through to the fridge part very well. We triied a couple of different configurations of the inside to try to get it right but in the end sold it and went for 2 x 40 ltr Engels which we are delighted with. We use one as a fridge and one as a freezer and can cope for a month out in the desert no worries.
We use a solar panel to top up the batterie when not driving and have had no issues in over 5 years now.
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