dissapointed with anaconda

Submitted: Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 07:19
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im looking at replacing our fridge so was looking around at all the usual places for prices.anaconda have the new 38 litre engel for $849.99 and 20% off traansit bags.not to bad i thought untill i went to rays.they had the same fridge for $799 no specials on the transit bag.then aussie disposals had the same fridge with a transit bad for $849.i went back to anaconda who advertise .we will beat any advertised price by 10% so i took the aussie disposal catalouge and showed them the price with a bag.the manager said im not going any cheaper im not interested in the 10% price gaurentee.bad luck.i asked what can he do he said for $849.99 he will throw in a cheap crappy transit bag tyhat should work..not very happy so i left and bought elsewhere
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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 08:28

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 08:28
I've noticed Anaconda are a little more expensive then the competition and then they go on special so it's not such a good buy.

Re: beating the competition price I would complain to their head office. That's pretty bad customer service.
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Follow Up By: Nargun51 - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:40

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:40
If there is no response from Head Office go to the ACCC; this is false advertising
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:35

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:35
Before you jump up and down have a close look at the fine print in the advert.
And I mean FINE, it may say something like "At participating dealers".
If it doesn't it is false advertising.


Just saying

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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:06

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:06
No fine print.

Anaconda price match

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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 13:00

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 13:00
I would call Anaconda management and tell them what happened. According to their price match above, they have not kept their promise and are guilty of false advertising. You could take this further if you are bothered otherwise people on these forums are reading this now and will think twice about choosing Anaconda as a supplier.
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Reply By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 08:32

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 08:32
Noticed ARB running a few open days with 10% off some items. Not a bad discount for big ticket items where that 10% adds up to a a reasonable discount but otherwise not worth the trouble. I went to two of these events and but managed to get better quotes elsewhere on better quality items. Mostly, because of their "we don't discount labour" the one-day specials only amount to a 5% discount overall. One bloke running the airbag stall just didn't want to be there judging by his lack of interest in any enquiry. I found things quiet in my business during July and August and not being able to discount any goods from my supplier, I discounted my already low labour cost by 20%. It really gave things a boost until things picked up. I just get the impression they don't try very hard for our business and wonder why we shop online.
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Follow Up By: Rick and Kerrie - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 17:53

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 17:53
I recently ordered a bullbar, side rails steps and radiator protection plate from ARB Wentworthville for my troopy, for a price that I was happy with (had several Quotes they were the best) and when I was booking in I noticed the flyer for the open day on the counter and asked if I would get a better price on the day.
No need he said I will give you the special price anyway.
I went ahead with the deal and had the gear fitted about 2 weeks before the open day and was invoiced at open day price and saved $350.00 off the original price, very happy and on the open day baught a radio and arial $15.00 below my best price and about $200.00 below list.
I have found this store to be very good to deal with.

Cheers Rick.
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 18:02

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 18:02
I might give em a try Rick. Got a couple of jobs meself coming up in Wenty and Toongabbie so will call in then. This local one was "strictly today only".
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Reply By: 944runner - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:27

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:27
Interesting I went to the local Anaconda store here in Adelaide and purchased a 80L Waeco when they had a sale on last week. Couldnt be happier with the service I got from them. Thought the price with bag and some other little bits and pieces of $1200 was pretty good to.
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Reply By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:46

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:46
I won't deal with firms who advertise that they will "match or better the opposition's advertised price". What they are actually saying is that they will gouge the highest price they can out of you, but will cut their profit if they must in order to beat the opposition who have offered a better price up front.

If they want my business then they need to offer the best price in the first place. If I get quoted a better price elsewhere I am not likely to go back to the higher-priced retailer to negotiate down to the same low price.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:56

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 09:56
Al

I'll go along with that.

I always ask for the best price up front and some times they will give a price and then say if you get a better price then come back and I'll match it.

What a stupid statement,,,, why go back and waste my time and fuel.



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Follow Up By: The Landy - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:49

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:49
Couldn't agree more!
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Follow Up By: Goldmad - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:04

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:04
Yes. I am the same they expect you to go and get your best and go back for them to match it, no way. One ploy I did do. I went into a well known store looking for a camera. When I asked for a price was told as above. So I said what if I make you a offer. Salesman said ok. So for a $599 camera I offered $450, He went away came
back said how about $470 so that is what I got the camera for.Was happy with that.
Just goes to show what the mark up is
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Follow Up By: Boobook2 - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:12

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:12
That's probably why they say they will beat it by 10%. They aren't asking you to come back for the same lower price. They are saying if you go to the effort of coming back we will beat it by 10%.

Of course you could tell that to the place where you see a lower price and they should drop their price by a further 10% to stop you walking out their door.

You have to play these guys games.

Better still, get it 40 to 80% less expensive online.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 13:01

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 13:01
Great point Al..
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 17:47

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 17:47
BOO BOO!! Many years ago i went to Joyce Mayne to buy a 500 litre fridge.. The sales guy would not give me a price on a fridge i selected. He said have a look around at get prices from the other guys and come back and we will beat the price... I said, Why would i do that?? I said i would buy from the mob that gave me the best price up front. I said , why would i come all the way back here for a few dollars?? I got a blank look from the sales guy and i left. I agree with you entirely.... Why would you??!!! Michael
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Follow Up By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 18:12

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 18:12
I think they sometimes deserve a bit of leeway with this. A bit like supermarkets, they have some items going very cheaply or little mark up but can't realistically do it with everything. The bloke up the road just might be doing a special price on the item you want whilst the local guy is cutting his margins elsewhere so it's understandable him trying to maintain a reasonable profit on some items until he has to discount them. Trouble is, it's hard knowing when this is happening and when they are just profiteering. I do get the impression that with the strict pricing of ARB items there is a bit of collaboration going on although some dealers are a bit more flexible with their labour. Hard to know sometimes though.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:08

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:08
I'm with you Allan and Boo Boo. If I get that sort of response, especially if it's face to face, often I won't bother with the business again. A better response might be - 'we can't do a discount on that but we might be able to throw in X or do you a package deal'. Good retailers know that you don't want customers walking out the door.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:23

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:23
in my experience, tyre shops are demons for this sort of thing. So I dont buy from them anymore, I'm sick of doing the running around for a good price when they cant give me their best price up front. I buy tryes from the US now. The way the dollar is, cheaper to buy from there and ship here then to buy here.
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:28

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:28
Exactly Bazooka. Anyone with skill in sales will tell you that the hardest thing is to get a customer through your door. After that the potential for a sale is how you now deal with that customer. There are many ways to move the customer toward a sale....... product appeal, service, display, after sales, added value, warranty, and price is but one factor. But none of these are of any use unless the customer has entered your sales room.

Those firms who offer to match their competitor's price are at a disadvantage from the beginning as the customer has already been to the competitor and if that competitor let the customer slip away then they are not too good as salespeople.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 21:02

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 21:02
Al

Not necessarily. Some times the first place I go to tell me they will match a price.

Thats why I said "why would I go back to that store and waste my time and money."

Quite often the best offer store maybe at a disadvantage if someone,,,, for whatever reason go back to another store and just match or get a little more off.

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Follow Up By: Member - OnYaBike - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 22:27

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 22:27
While agreeing with comments so far, to be fair a lot of stores must be tired of people on fishing expeditions with no intention to buy. It must be difficult sometimes to spot the genuine buyer to give a firm price to.
In Qld they have the Union Shopper for union members, you tell them the best price for the exact brand and model you want, and they come back with (most times) a much better price delivered to your door. It could come from anywhere, one time I was buying a freezer and they sent me to one of the local shops I had already been to, with $120 off their best price to me.
But my point in all this rambling is that when you use the union shopper you must be ready to buy, if they come up with a substantial saving they expect you to buy, this is what they go to their contacts with. No fishing expeditions, that's why it works.
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Reply By: Member - Craig F (WA) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:37

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:37
I bought a colman HWS from Anaconda. It was on sale at BCF for $300 took the catalogue to Anaconda. They price matched and discounted it as per there police no questions asked. They did comment that the new price which was around $270 was well below there allowable minimum sell price.
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Reply By: Time - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:46

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:46
When the local Anaconda opened in Canberra a week or two ago they had a local area cattledog with "great" introductory prices.

On their web site that same weekend they had a 20% off everything promo going, prices actually better than the "great" Canberra store prices. Yes, you guessed it the 20% off didn't apply to the Canberra store. When questioned about meeting their other store prices the response was a dumb look of confusion.

Found the door and am unlikely to return.
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Reply By: howesy - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 15:09

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 15:09
I got the same from bunnings I showed them a competitors advertised price and they said no thats we will take 10% off (mind you still more expensive) I laughed and poited to the sign that says they will beat it by 10% and was told if I am not happy with their prices I dont have to shop there so when ever possible i dont.
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Reply By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 18:20

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 18:20
Heard a couple of women on the radio complaining about department stores and the lack of service. I think we've all experienced it but I go through Myers sometimes and you could fire the proverbial gun through there. They can't put the staff on because nobody is buying and nobody is buying because they don't get the service.

Chicken and egg.
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Reply By: Kris and Kev - Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:37

Monday, Nov 21, 2011 at 20:37
We had a great experience at Anaconda when we were buying our fridge. They were at the Brisbane Camping Show and had their 10% beat any price offer displayed. We got the best price at another exhibitor at the same show and went back to Anaconda. They at first said they could only match the price as it was a very low price and then I pointed to their sign about the 10%. They agreed and said they will have to abide by their guarantee and took the 10% off. We left very happy.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 00:00

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 00:00
This whole price matching this is a complicated stratergy.

On the vast majority of purchases it never comes into play, because most customers are conned by the "we have the cheapest prices" statement...its a bluff, and some stores don't like having their bluff called.

Often to their pain, some stores end up bleeding from the @#$e, over their price match polocy bluff, remember that manager will be on bonuses and penalties.....so guess why they get narky.

second, a great many times they will only match precisely the same item, so the distributers are carefull not to supply the exact same product or package to two different chains. Or the stores are very carefull not to package the same as the opposition.....This has been going on for decades.

The real con is the magical disapearing stock....some stores are known for removing product from display when a price match would hurt them too much.
"OH sorry that is not a stock item"....yeh funny it was on the shelves last week and it will be back on the shelves when the oppositions sale ends.

The retail industry is in real trouble over this whole discounting thing....so many of the retailers are lazy and poorly skilled, so they take the easy option and sell on price alone.

30 years ago there was full retail margin between wholesale and recomended retail price on whitegoods ( stoves, fridges, washers), then the discounting started.
about 15 years ago the wholsalers stopped giving the retailers a full margin, because they knew that would all just piss it up against the wall.

Now we find it is even worse, they have started to cheapen the product, and now both the service and the product get crappier and crappier.

So who is to blame, the customer or the retailer..a very good question.

But margin shrinkage is a high profile issue in retail, and it has come to a point where these retalers will try every nasty trick in the book to claw back any margin that they possibly can....Margin shrinkage will be a top subject at every sales meeting.

Wondered why the whole retail playing fields is littered with the corpses of dead retail companies......Clive Peters, is the most recent to bite the dust, but there have been plenty before.

I for one would be prepared to pay a little more for some good quality product and some better service.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 20:13

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 20:13
I was recently in Officeworks and they were changing some price tags on some items and the assistant told me they get notification from head office several times a day to adjust an items price to match a competitors advertised price in line with there advertised policy of always being the best price

It was good to see that they were living up to there promise
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 23:29

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 23:29
Yeh they are marking the prices down so they don't have to eat the extra 10%.

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Reply By: Stevesub1 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 16:34

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 16:34
Today I tried to gouge a little off the local Dick Smith for a camera that they have at the manufacturers RRP. I even had a brochure from another company on the other side of town with their deal - looks like I am going the other side of town as Dick Smith would not come near them, or even close to anyone else that also have similar deals on the same camera.

Unfortunately Dick Smith is local, every one else is 1 to 2 hours drive away but I will be passing one of the places with a deal later in the week.

Got a deal on a Garmin GPS from Harvey Norman recently just by haggling (1/4 off) but 2 months later it died. Their after sales person had the sales skills of a dead fish when I tried to explain to him that in 2 weeks time, I am leaving the country for 2 months and need the GPS with me. I will have to buy another one if I do not get my one back in time which according to the guy is highly unlikely (they have already had it a week). My nephew also purchased a Garmin GPS from Harvey Norman in NZ, it died after 2 months and they gave him a new one.

I have been a Sales Manager for 25 years and would never employ either of the 2 people I have been dealing with and am reluctant to deal with the 2 companies I mentioned ever again due to their arrogant staff with a total lack of skills. How they got their jobs, who knows.
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:14

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:14
Steve, You want 25% off AND customer service ???

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Follow Up By: Stevesub1 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:37

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:37
Yes, of course!!!! Don't we all.

I am more upset that 2 out of 3 new Garmin's in my family have died.
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Follow Up By: Stevesub1 - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:44

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:44
Also upset that Dick Smith refuse to negotiate when they have signs "We are doing deals". The joys of living in a rural area where there is no competition closer than an hour away.
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:52

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 18:52
"Don't we all" ?
No Steve, I at least am somewhat more realistic. LOL

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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 23:33

Tuesday, Nov 22, 2011 at 23:33
YEH in the absence of anything resembling a quality product sold with inteligent and competent customer service.
Most will buy the cheapest product from the cheapest vendor.

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Reply By: Holden4th - Friday, Nov 25, 2011 at 22:11

Friday, Nov 25, 2011 at 22:11
As one poster said, many retailers are bleeding from the proverbial back passage and service could be the reason. But let's take a look at another factor.

In the last two years I have become an internet shopper simply because many retailers can't offer anywhere near the price I can get online. My online purchases have included golf clubs, audio gear, CDs, automotive accessories and a mobile phone and I have been very happy with both the service and also the back up if things went wrong. Ebay has become a very good source and Paypal gives great protection in case of issues.
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