ZIEL driving lights by Repco
Submitted: Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:19
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Savvas
Guys,
I just bought a pair of 210mm ZIEL
driving lights from Repco. One broad, one pencil. At a launch price of $89 each, I thought what the hell let's give 'em a try.
They are unreal! Full steel construction, with black chrome finish on the body and stainless steel mounting hardware. They appear to be really solid and in construction very similar to Cybie.
The light they throw is fantastic. The pencil is marketed as having a 500m reach, but I was getting further than that. A cross street near our place is nearly 650m long and they were lighting up the house at the end of it. Obviously not as good as say Lightforce but better than the 200mm Narva Targa and possibly some other dearer units. It's also way better constructed than Narva.
The stoneguard is crap but is removable. Optional clear covers are available which I will be getting.
If anyone has seen these in the Repco Catalogue and is thinking about getting them, get in quick because the 210mm lights go up to $119 each after Xmas. For a steel constructed light at Narva prices you won't find much better!
www.ziel.com.au
Reply By: Rowler - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 19:35
Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 19:35
I will
check em out b4 xmas then......
are you sure that you don't work for repco? ;-)
Have you switched them individually or together?
Thanks Rowler.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:42
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:42
They are switched together through the high beam circuit. But that's not a bad thought about switching them separately.
Nope ... I work for IBM. But when I see what I believe is good value, I'll let all know.
BTW, the catalog shows the price as $89 ea, but that's intended for the smaller 160 or 170mm lights. The fact they list the 210mm's under that is a misprint. But the guys at Repco Kogarah had no problem with overriding the list price with the advertised one and hence I got them at $89 ea!!!
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Reply By: Macca50 - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 12:16
Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 12:16
Were the Ziel's difficult to install.
I have also just boought a pair and I am going to try to wire them up with the help of the girl friend's father (ex sparkie) next weekend.
Any tricks to look out for?
They are being installed ona VX Prado
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 13:25
Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 13:25
No problem to install whatsoever. You can get the Ziel wiring kit for about $50 which will make life easy for you. All the wiring, fuses, connectors and relays are in there.
I didn't get the kit as I already had wiring installed from a previous set of lights. I did however upgrade the power feed from a 30amp wire to 50amp because there was a voltage drop of about 1.2v at the lamp connector using the old wiring. I also replaced the old 30amp relay with a 40amp relay that has 2 output connectors on it. Each lamp now has its own power feed too instead of the shared feed as before. Now there is no voltage drop and the light output is noticeably whiter than before.
The only other thing to watch out for is to make sure that lights will physically fit where you want to install them.
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Reply By: Savvas - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 13:10
Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 13:10
No problem to install whatsoever. You can get the Ziel wiring kit for about $50 which will make life easy for you. All the wiring, fuses, connectors and relays are in there.
I didn't get the kit as I already had wiring installed from a previous set of lights. I did however upgrade the power feed from a 30amp wire to 50amp because there was a voltage drop of about 1.2v at the lamp connector using the old wiring. I also replaced the old 30amp relay with a 40amp relay that has 2 output connectors on it. Each lamp now has its own power feed too instead of the shared feed as before. Now there is no voltage drop and the light output is noticeably whiter than before.
The only other thing to watch out for is to make sure that lights will physically fit where you want to install them.
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Follow Up By: Macca50 - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 14:07
Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 14:07
No probs about fitting the Repco guys let me take two lights out of the
shop in the boxes to see it they will fit side be side. I am going for the rectangle ones rather than the rounds, just for looks really on the front of the prado, the rounds ones looked a bit silly I thought.
Did you buy a spread and pencil combo? if so on which side did you fit each one, on this board I have found arguements for both ways.
And hella have their own view of it on their web site too.
I picked up the kit when i got th elights, one of the Repco shops ( i went to two) said the kit would only do one light, but the other one said that was crap and even opened it up on the counter to show me how it went together.
As you can guess I have not done to many of these installs before.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 15:30
Tuesday, Dec 30, 2003 at 15:30
Yep ... I got one of each. The pencil is on the drivers side and the spread on the passenger side. The theory is that the spread will light up the kerbside of the road and the pencil will shoot off into the distance directly ahead. I went for the rounds as they have a further reach than the rectangles.
The way they are mounted on my Monterey, they are only 300mm or so centre to centre apart anyway, so the difference in putting them on the other way would be negligible.
I enquired about the kit at Repco Kogarah and they said they only had one for 24V setups. I then saw one last weekend at Repco Taren Point. The label stated for 24V applications you need to buy another relay. So I asked the guy at the counter and he explained that there is only a 12V kit which needs a 24V relay to convert it over.
I'm starting to get some doubts about my local Repco crew at Kogarah. These are the same guys that said they can't source a fan belt for my vehicle and I'd have to go to Holden for it. Tried Repco at Taren Point and they had 2 in stock!!!
One last tip ... do get the clear covers for them. They are only $20 each. The black stoneguards interfere a lot with the light output.
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Follow Up By: Macca50 - Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 09:58
Wednesday, Dec 31, 2003 at 09:58
I was wondering if those stone guard things came off. The lights are still inb the box and we are going to do the install on New Years day.
The wiring looks pretty easy in th ekits supplied, although I have bought another switch that will "blend" in a bit more with the dash on the prado. The switch supplied looks like it could luanch a missle or something and would be more in the way than useful.
Thanks for the tips.
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Follow Up By: Macca50 - Friday, Jan 02, 2004 at 10:18
Friday, Jan 02, 2004 at 10:18
Well the lights are on, the wiring is in, and all is good.
The Ziel Wiring kit is FANTASTIC. It is plug and play in the trueist sense. NO cuting wires, you mount the rely, connect the lights, remove the plug from the back of one of the headlights and insert the double adaptor thing that gives you the hi beam on off, join up the battery an dthat is it for the engine bay area. The only difficult part is getting the wire through the fire wall.
All up a really simply installation, and the the lights work a treat.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Friday, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:18
Friday, Jan 02, 2004 at 11:18
Excellent .... and they don't cost an arm and a leg which is even better!
Have a great 2004 and hope to chat on Exploroz a bit more often!
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